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**Official** Australia in India Thread

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
I would agree with you AA and Irfan Pathan should be picked IMO. Besides there is no guarantee Zaheer wouldn't break down in the middle of the Test. His recent record is not very promising in this regard.

Do you think there's an outside possibility of Australia playing only Mcgrath and Kaspar, and playing Cameron White along with Warne and part time spin from Katich and Lehman ? or if Lehman not fit to play would there be a greater temptation to play Cameron White (in place of Gillespie) ?
 

Dasa

International Vice-Captain
^I think the Aussie selectors have really messed up on this one. Should they want an extra spinner, they'll have to turn to White or Hauritz, neither of whom are Test standard IMO. I don't think Australia can afford to go in with only 2 pace bowlers.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Yeah, agreed, Australia are always going to play to their strengths and thats pace bowling. Gillespie, Kasper and McGrath will definitely play.

But Warnie will get support, Michael Clarke and Simon Katich are very useful spin bowlers. Katich even has a 5 wicket haul next to his name.
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
You are probably right. But if the team was to be selected to suit this pitch IMO Cameron White is probably likely to be more useful particularly if they needed someone to bowl long spells in the warm conditions!!

Michael Clarke may be OK as an ODI bowler but in 49 First Class matches he has taken 7 wickets !!

If Lehman is declared OK to play then Lehman and Katich may be adequate support bowlers for Warne, but if Lehman doesn't play there's a definite need to include Cameron White IMO.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
IMO , Australia just need to play their 4 best bowlers....I dont think White would bowl as well as McGrath or Gillespie anyway .
 

Mr Casson

Cricketer Of The Year
JASON said:
If Lehman is declared OK to play then Lehman and Katich may be adequate support bowlers for Warne, but if Lehman doesn't play there's a definite need to include Cameron White IMO.
Where is this doubt over Lehmann coming from? He is in India. He is preparing with the rest of the team. He is playing tomorrow.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
telsor said:
So I ask you..if SL was coming to play, would the same pitch have been prepared?

Possibly, possibly not.

Either way, it's called home advantage, so they can prepare whatever they want.

The way you're going on about it suggests to me that you're just a teensy bit afraid that you're going to get beaten.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
JASON said:
Michael Clarke may be OK as an ODI bowler but in 49 First Class matches he has taken 7 wickets !!
Some would doubt the first part of that statement in all honesty.

The second part is extremely telling though...
 

telsor

U19 12th Man
marc71178 said:
Possibly, possibly not.

Either way, it's called home advantage, so they can prepare whatever they want.

The way you're going on about it suggests to me that you're just a teensy bit afraid that you're going to get beaten.

Actually I'm split between thinking Australia will lose the series or it'll be drawn, and that was before the pitch.

OK, so it's technically legal to prepare whatever pitch, and some would say it's common. That doesn't mean it's not unsportsmanlike.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
telsor said:
Actually I'm split between thinking Australia will lose the series or it'll be drawn, and that was before the pitch.

OK, so it's technically legal to prepare whatever pitch, and some would say it's common. That doesn't mean it's not unsportsmanlike.
Ah the grip of the media. You most probably wouldnt be so worked up if they hadnt used the word 'shameless' in one of the headlines.
 

telsor

U19 12th Man
Deja moo said:
Ah the grip of the media. You most probably wouldnt be so worked up if they hadnt used the word 'shameless' in one of the headlines.
No, more the lead up, with people saying how it was the best pitch for pace in India, and that it's been said fairly clearly that this was changed specifically because of who India was playing.

I don't care what the pitch is like..so long as it's like that all the time.
Home ground advantage is the crowds, both in and out of the game, having played at the ground before on a regular basis and things like that.
 

Deja moo

International Captain
telsor said:
No, more the lead up, with people saying how it was the best pitch for pace in India, and that it's been said fairly clearly that this was changed specifically because of who India was playing.

I don't care what the pitch is like..so long as it's like that all the time.
Home ground advantage is the crowds, both in and out of the game, having played at the ground before on a regular basis and things like that.

Australia have Warne....I dont see how this pitch is loaded entirely in favour of India then.

As for pitches being the same all the time, thats impossible. It is in the nature of pitches to change over periods of time, with or without human intervention .
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
tooextracool said:
how does it make a difference? if he batted at 7 and assuming he batted till the end of the innings, he would have to almost immediately take to the field...its the same thing except that this time hes keeping after batting whereas otherwise he would be batting after keeping.



no im quite sure that katich is good enough to bat no 3, but gilchrist is better off there. and from what ive seen of katich thus far he looks more comfortable at the start of his innings against spin than pace, hence he would be better at 6.

Trust me there is a big difference. I have been a keeper batsman before and it is much harder to settle into a batting innings after being crouched behind the stumps for almost an entire day then to go out early in the innings, you concerntration just isn't there and if you get a good one early, it is harder to keep out.

However, on the other hand, after a good stint batting down the order it is a tad easier to slip on the gloves and out to the field.

I'm not saying both don't have the positive and negative points, but it is easier keeping after batting, than batting quickly after keeping.
 

Andre

International Regular
tooextracool said:
from what ive seen off katich he seems better off starting against spin than against pace. hes done well at 6 in his career thus far, and gilchrist would be better off at 3, its in the interest of the team.
Not at all. While Katich is an excellent player of spin he is well suited to getting in early and playing against the harder ball and the seamers.
 

biased indian

International Coach
telsor said:
Actually I'm split between thinking Australia will lose the series or it'll be drawn, and that was before the pitch.

OK, so it's technically legal to prepare whatever pitch, and some would say it's common. That doesn't mean it's not unsportsmanlike.
hope u have not seen the NZ vs indai test series !!!!!!
 

biased indian

International Coach
telsor said:
No, more the lead up, with people saying how it was the best pitch for pace in India, and that it's been said fairly clearly that this was changed specifically because of who India was playing.
the bangalore pitch was the one in which ind and pak played the game in 86-87 which was said as a mine feild.

if i am correct it asssited the pace bowlers the only time when england visited ind last time and it was also due to the cloud cover that was present in bangalore through out the period of test match.as the it was the firt test match to be played under lights all five days
 

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