**Official** Australia in India Thread

[maxpower]

Nagpur has hosted 7 test IND has 2 wins 1 loss and 4 draws. Lots runs are scored at Nagpur. I dont know what kinda teams both will select, either way the bowlers will take a beating.
http://www.howstat.com.au/cricket/Statistics/Grounds/GroundMatches.asp?GroundCode=064

 

[Sanz]

isnt that like saying anytime which lets harbhajjan singh make 40-odd against them not deserve to win? i dont agre with your statement, but outta curiosity who were u rooting for?

Not really, It's not about Gillespie scoring 40 runs, infact he scored only 26 runs but the total partnership was worth 139 Runs , Highest 5th wickets Partnership against India in India, Gillespie played 115 deliveries (19.1 overs) batted for almost 4 hours and took the game away from India. India couldn't get Gillespie out, it was Martyn who got out first and that broke Jason's concentration and he also got out but by that time match had slipped away from the comfortable Zone India wanted to be in. Btw, Harbhajan may score a test century one day but he can never play that kind of patient inning.

As for Rooting, Who do you think I was/am rooting for ??

 

[viktor]

Exactly, A team which allowed Gillespie to bat for two sessions doesn't deserve to win.

Just as Aus were undeserving winners for letting Irfan Pathan get a fifty off them in the first match ??
Irfan getting fifty made things a little difficult for them, did not make them undeserving winners.
Similarly Gillespie's innings made things a little more difficult for India,
did not make them undeserving.
All this is, ofcourse, my most humble opinion..

 

[tooextracool]

Whether the Aussies would be bold enough to drop McGrath for Lee is another matter .

perhaps 'bold' should be replaced by 'stupid'.....

 

[tooextracool]

Why would you drop a make-shift opener for another make-shift opener?

because the other one is more capable?
but i agree with you're overall view, kaif shouldnt be opening.....

 

[tooextracool]

I'd say stupid, not bold.

argh beat me to it......

 

[marc71178]

Just as Aus were undeserving winners for letting Irfan Pathan get a fifty off them in the first match ??
Irfan getting fifty made things a little difficult for them, did not make them undeserving winners.

A little difficult? I don't think so.

Aus were well on top when he scored this 50 and victory was a formality.

Similarly Gillespie's innings made things a little more difficult for India, did not make them undeserving.

Gillespie's inning came at an extremely crucial time in the game and to an extent took the game away from India - that's more than just making it a little difficult!

 

[Mister Wright]

but i agree with you're overall view

There's something you don't see everyday...

 

[Neil Pickup]

isnt that like saying anytime which lets harbhajjan singh make 40-odd against them not deserve to win? i dont agre with your statement, but outta curiosity who were u rooting for?

I'm fairly certain it will have been India.

There's a big, big difference between a tailender slogging a few in a game that's already lost, and a tailender resolutely hanging around when the opposition needed to get him out to keep their hold on the game.

 

[JustTool]

I'm not talking about technology, and the only reason you keep bringing it up is because India had a couple more rough calls than Australia did.

Had it been the other way round, you wouldn't have said a thing.

Thanks for telling me what I would have done and how I think. Can you pass me you telephone number so I can call you for advice even when I don't need any.
Instead of discussing the merits and de-merits of technology you are unnecssarily impugning motives to prove your untenable position since you cannot substantiate it with facts.

 

[Son Of Coco]

I'd say stupid, not bold.

I agree, it'd take a madman to drop McGrath for Lee

 

[Son Of Coco]

Just as Aus were undeserving winners for letting Irfan Pathan get a fifty off them in the first match ??
Irfan getting fifty made things a little difficult for them, did not make them undeserving winners.
Similarly Gillespie's innings made things a little more difficult for India,
did not make them undeserving.
All this is, ofcourse, my most humble opinion..

however, if they'd have removed gillespie swiftly they wouldn't have had to worry about it all being spoilt by rain - but then it was a top effort by him and possibly something that they couldn't really control. Harbhajan taking that catch would have made a difference, but then everyone drops them at some time or another.

 

[Sanz]

Just as Aus were undeserving winners for letting Irfan Pathan get a fifty off them in the first match ??
Irfan getting fifty made things a little difficult for them, did not make them undeserving winners.
Similarly Gillespie's innings made things a little more difficult for India,
did not make them undeserving.
All this is, ofcourse, my most humble opinion..

Okay let me show you the difference, When Irfan came on to bat India were 86/6(Chasing 430+) with one full day's game was left +, 15 overs on 4th day. India could not have drawn or won the match from there, it was just a matter of time.To most people match was as good as over on the 4th day, Day 5 was just a formality. Irfan's inning didn't make anything dificult for Australia, it only delayed their victory by couple of overs/hours.

When Gillespie came on to bat Australia were in a lead with 4 runs and he came as nightwatchman and look what he did, he stayed on the crease for 242 minutes, played out 165 balls and involved in the highest partnership of the test match(139 runs) with Martyn. He hung in there and trust me it was his inning that gave confidence to Martyn to score runs freely. Imagine the situation where he had gotten out early and Clarke & Lehman had still made similar contributions with Martyn, India would still have had at least 3-4 hours or about 35-50 overs to chase about 130-200 runs on 4th day. Gilliespie's inning (along with Martyn's) saved the match for Australia

But I guess you will not understand the value of such an inning, to me it was a masterpiece tailender inning and IMO it cant be compared to Pathan's 55 runs.

 

[viktor]

Oh, I understand the value of the inning, I just don't see why their inability to get Gillespie out quickly makes India undeserving winners.
If the Indians had won on the final day, Gillespie's innings would have merely delayed the win.
I understand that when G'spie played, the match was in the balance while Pathan's was played when the match was almost lost, but had the Indian's won on the final day, g'spie's inning would have gone down as a valiant attempt, but made in vain..

 

[Deja moo]

I'd say stupid, not bold.

Its not that far fetched . McGrath got no movement from this pitch at Chennai. Nagpur will only be worse for him. IMO, pace is the only thing that will help a pace bowler in Nagpur .

 

[Son Of Coco]

Oh, I understand the value of the inning, I just don't see why their inability to get Gillespie out quickly makes India undeserving winners.
If the Indians had won on the final day, Gillespie's innings would have merely delayed the win.
I understand that when G'spie played, the match was in the balance while Pathan's was played when the match was almost lost, but had the Indian's won on the final day, g'spie's inning would have gone down as a valiant attempt, but made in vain..

it doesn't make them undeserving winners, but in the circumstances they were then presented with on the last day it ensured that a result wasn't possible. It makes them deserved drawers! haha

 

[maxpower]

even if gilispie got out the game would have been finished there were still other wickets left, it would've still gone to 5th day which was washed out, so it does not make much of difference. if's and but's are not candy and nuts, and thats why its not a wonderful world.

 

[Deja moo]

Who cares now ?

Gillespies was an innings to be appreciated, as was Pathans regardless of the outcome of the match .

Lets pack our bags and move on to Nagpur , maybe eat some oranges .

 

[marc71178]

even if gilispie got out the game would have been finished there were still other wickets left, it would've still gone to 5th day which was washed out, so it does not make much of difference.

You reckon?

After he went the rest of the side fell in 2 hours.

Had he not batted 4 hours I think the game might verywell have been wrapped up on the 4th evening.

 

[maxpower]

You reckon?

After he went the rest of the side fell in 2 hours.

Had he not batted 4 hours I think the game might verywell have been wrapped up on the 4th evening.

still u can't be sure that if gilsipe got out early so would everyone else, and he scored 26 runs, even if he scored 0 and got out early that still leaves 200 runs for IND to score in 2 sessions or so, I dont see that happening.