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*Official* Australia in India - ODIs

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Top_Cat said:
Very surprised to see Christian's name come up, SA have been playing him as a bowling all-rounder batting at 8 in SS and FRC for the past season or so. If you want to play as an all-rounder of any stripe at international level, surely you'd have to be batting top 6 for your state? Unless as a bowler, he's completely out of reckoning; even then, he's a good contributor with the ball but isn't going to scare any international batting line-ups. With the bat, he's got a style like Dean Jones but tends to, unlike Jones, stick to nick-and-nudge without the latter-over power hitting.

Of the ones mooted, McDonald in with the strongest chance surely?
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Criminally underrated on CW and by selectors
 
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Clapo said:
Not sure what Aussie is rambling about Henriques for.
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I wasn't rambling about Henriques, i was simply responding to a question about Henriques asked by poster NUFAN.



Clapo said:
I hope he does play for Australia one day, but he's done sfa and most certainly does not "deserve to be picked" at this stage of his career. Lets see him actually have a reasonably consistent domestic season first....(as opposed to 2 good innings with bat and ball accross about 15).
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I agree. 90% of the time thats the AUS way of doing things. But you got to admit in another country Henriques would have been fasted tracked already - he would walk into the ENG ODI team right now.

Clapo said:
If we're looking for a 5th/6th bowler (to split overs with Watto) I'd much rather see another specialist bat in the team and have Voges bowl more, or even Dussey ffs. Despite them having scratchy international records to date, we at least know they can hold their own with the bat from time to time, and are decent enough to be a 6/7th bowling option.
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I dont necessarily disagree with such a balance, but AUS do this when all are fit again, they would have INDs problem currently. Which having is too match batting, only 4 solid bowlers (Lee/Siddle/Johnson/Hauritz) & too much partimers which could be targeted. So i dont mind keeping Hopes/Henriques @ 7 in a full strenght ODI line-up.
 
marc71178

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You started it, and you're the one that continues it.

Remind us of Henriques record in list A cricket again...
 
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NUFAN said:
Fair enough guys, just thought he looked woeful and can't really remember seeing much of him before the other day. I'm sure he's better then what he showed with the ball, you don't make Team India without some talent.
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That's interesting, because IIRC the performances on which he built his reputation were those in Australia. Took you guys and Sri Lanka apart in the last-but-one CBS series.

I thought he was a quality bowler and would go on to better things, but he's never been as good since.
 
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So I thought I'd compare Henriques to Watson when he made his ODI debut, see how they compared. Because obviously Watto was plucked out quite young (younger than Henriques, and fewer games) and a lot of people didn't think he deserved selection either.

List A
Henriques
268 runs @ 19.1 (SR 81.7) 0x50, 21 wickets @ 38.6 (ER 5.4)
Watson
364 runs @30.3 (SR 55.3), 3x50, 8 wickets @ 60.5 (ER 5.9)

Of course, Watson was probably picked as much on his FC record (701 runs @ 44, and 36 wickets @ 24), in a similar way to Henriques selection being influenced by his T20.
 
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marc71178 said:
You started it, and you're the one that continues it.

Remind us of Henriques record in list A cricket again...
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Irrelevant.

Long story short, if based on what you have seen of Henriques & Wright you seriously think Wright is better in any way. The i can't help you, but you will find that you are small minority.
 
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four_or_six said:
So I thought I'd compare Henriques to Watson when he made his ODI debut, see how they compared. Because obviously Watto was plucked out quite young (younger than Henriques, and fewer games) and a lot of people didn't think he deserved selection either.

List A
Henriques
268 runs @ 19.1 (SR 81.7) 0x50, 21 wickets @ 38.6 (ER 5.4)
Watson
364 runs @30.3 (SR 55.3), 3x50, 8 wickets @ 60.5 (ER 5.9)

Of course, Watson was probably picked as much on his FC record (701 runs @ 44, and 36 wickets @ 24), in a similar way to Henriques selection being influenced by his T20.
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Not really based on what i remember TBH. Watson was very much fasted tracked like Henriques is ATM, but as you rightfully highlighted he better domestic stats mainly in FC cricket for Tasmania ATT.

In Watson's first year in 2002 before he got injured before the 2003 WC, he was just as raw as Henriques is ATM. But the talent was obvious.
 
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aussie said:
I agree. 90% of the time thats the AUS way of doing things. But you got to admit in another country Henriques would have been fasted tracked already - he would walk into the ENG ODI team right now.
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It really doesn't matter what may or may not have happened if Henriques was playing for another country. He's playing for Australia, and at this point in time there are at least 3/4 better options to play in the position he'll likely play.

Not sure why you ever said he "deserved to be picked" if you agree with what I say though :S
 
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