***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

[aussie]

finally sk*nt

 

[Slow Love™]

Oh, christ.... I was dead on my feet at 5/250 and had to take a nap, but I thought we were well in it at that stage. II get up and it's bloody 9/470. Very hard to see much potential for winning this game from here. Very hard.

 

[social]

Yeah, but it's happened four or five times this summer. Surely something out of the ordinary is happening with the stumps? Deeper grooves for the bails perhaps, or heavier bails to ensure the wind doesn't blow them off? Whatever it is, it's silly when it causes that sort of thing to happen, and it also cost Tremlett a hat-trick on debut.

I didnt see the Tremlett episode, but this one and the one off Bell last test fairly clattered into the stumps. It's ridiculous that hits of that force dont dislodge the bails.

 

[PY]

2 wickets before the close and I reckon England will be 75-25 but only 60-40 at the moment because this pitch is obviously a road.

Bit of a weather update, I'm a fair bit north of Nottingham and we've just had a downpour, though I'm not entirely sure which way it's heading because weather forecast wasn't forthcoming.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Dean Jones makes the point - no excuses for Australia on this pitch. It's completely and utterly dead, not only is there no movement, there's also no bounce or pace, and there won't be much turn yet for Giles, just maybe a bit of variation bounce out of the footmarks. The only threat will be whatever swing Hoggard can find, and the ball really shouldn't reverse very much on such a non-abrasive wicket, or if it does it won't do it for a long time.

Australia need to make a big score of 400+ in response.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I didnt see the Tremlett episode, but this one and the one off Bell last test fairly clattered into the stumps. It's ridiculous that hits of that force dont dislodge the bails.

Tremlett's hat-trick ball was to Ashraful I think... it bounced at him, came off his body and bounced on top of the bails, they popped up a bit and settled back down, like this time.

 

[aussie]

Dean Jones makes the point - no excuses for Australia on this pitch. It's completely and utterly dead, not only is there no movement, there's also no bounce or pace, and there won't be much turn yet for Giles, just maybe a bit of variation bounce out of the footmarks. The only threat will be whatever swing Hoggard can find, and the ball really shouldn't reverse very much on such a non-abrasive wicket, or if it does it won't do it for a long time.

Australia need to make a big score of 400+ in response.

they better had there is nothing in this pitch that can trouble the australian batsmen, the should go to stumps no less than 1 down.....

 

[social]

Dean Jones makes the point - no excuses for Australia on this pitch. It's completely and utterly dead, not only is there no movement, there's also no bounce or pace, and there won't be much turn yet for Giles, just maybe a bit of variation bounce out of the footmarks. The only threat will be whatever swing Hoggard can find, and the ball really shouldn't reverse very much on such a non-abrasive wicket, or if it does it won't do it for a long time.

Australia need to make a big score of 400+ in response.

If a 3rd grader from Loganholme can get 85, there cant be any excuses.

 

[Pratters]

Australia has to make 550-600 but how long would they have to bat for that.

The team losing this match would have only themselves to blame the way I see it.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Surely Bails and Stumps have to meet certain ICC regulations though? so they should be identicle to those used in other series?

I'd be very surprised if theres no set regulation for weight of bails / depth of groove in the stump.

 

[Pratters]

I know and have seen that in very windy conditions the heavy bails are used. Else the light bails are used.

What the specifications are for them? I do not know.

 

[marc71178]

Nice to see Jones walking by the way. He and Bell have done it consistently all series.

Bell's have always been obvious, but he's still been actually dismissed just about every time - not often that happens.

 

[marc71178]

Mandatory mini-collapse from England to keep Australia in the game, all stems from Flintoff's heave.

And without Flintoff's innings we'd be in the mire now, so I for one forgive him the dismissal.

 

[marc71178]

Certainly more control than a Ponting.

Oh really?!

That'll be why Ponting was able to show more control than either of those 2?

 

[marc71178]

If a 3rd grader from Loganholme can get 85, there cant be any excuses.

Ignore the fact he actually batted well then!

 

[andyc]

I was watching the Roy and HG show on ABC and they had a segment on the cricket (very funny), but they made a good point. Ponting bowled 6 overs and bowled no no-balls (although he did bowl a wide, but that's different). Then you've got players who's job is to bowl sending down 13 (Kasper) and 8 (Lee) no-balls. Quite pathetic, really.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Hoggard should be key. Conditions are helping conventional swing a bit and he's easily England's best in that regard, and he's also adept at bowling negatively with a defensive field when the pitch is flat and the batsmen are on top. I'd expect a bigger role for him than in the past.

 

[Pratters]

Oh really?!

That'll be why Ponting was able to show more control than either of those 2?

Yeah because the few overs Ponting bowled is certainly enough to form a concrete judgement

 

[marc71178]

Are you denying he showed more control that Gillespie has done all series?

And compared to MacGill Gillespie has a lot of control.

 

[Demolition Man]

Jeeez you guys that wanted kasper ahead of tait , want some sauce with your words ??