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***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

Tom Halsey

International Coach
FaaipDeOiad said:
It's not critical because it was an advantage to England. If anything, it was Ponting's error that was critical, as it gave England the crucial first use of the pitch. It doesn't matter who's fault it was, the fact is if you win the toss and the opposition get the best of the conditions, it's not a critical toss.
Yes it is. You just stuffed it up. Its still a critical toss to win, you didn't make the most of it.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
these blokes should go to the hospital & check their feet is it that hard to keep your foot behind the line :dry:
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
FaaipDeOiad said:
I never said anything about bad luck mate, that was nuffy. I said that Australia's two toss wins were not as crucial as England's, because on both occasions England got a significant advantage out of winning it while Australia didn't.
How can you say they're not as crucial when Ponting could have in all probability won the Test (and probably the series) if he'd made the correct decision? That toss was crucial, not critical by your definition, but certainly crucial.
 

Nuffy

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
The no ball problem just gets worse, this is just like the first day of the SCG test against India.

These blokes are clueless.
 

tassietiger

U19 Debutant
Well the no-ball problem might've been luck if it were at the start of the day, but after 15 or so no-balls in the day, surely you would be thinking about staying behind the line.

No luck there, just plain stupidity from Brett.
 

chalky

International Debutant
That Tresco wicket could have salvaged the morning for Australia 120 odd for two after losing the toss on a flat wicket wouldn't have been that bad.
 

greg

International Debutant
Nuffy said:
SP, lets have alook at the last day of the 3rd test for a few gems that ran Eng's way, Martyns decision, Warnes dismissal, want me to go on.

Plenty of Eng commentators have said that Eng have had by far the best of the luck, Boycott said today that the toss was absolutely vital today, and more so after Mcgraths injury.

No one is suggesting that Eng aren't playing good cricket, but they are so with the benefit of bucket loads of good luck to go with it.
England not appealing when Martyn nicked one to the keeper, England having Pietersen fielding at midwicket, want me to go on...
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Very much England's session. The no ball wicket at the end just clinched it, it would have been a close one aside from that.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
well its a rough surface but i think Australia fielded & bowled well this session but once again this stupid no-ball problem jesus England should have easily been 2 nill down...... :dry:
 

Magrat Garlick

Rather Mad Witch
FaaipDeOiad said:
Very much England's session. The no ball wicket at the end just clinched it, it would have been a close one aside from that.
Does that mean it would have been close if Trescothick hadn't dragged on, or it would have been close if Lee hadn't overstepped?
 

SpaceMonkey

International Debutant
If England continue to attack Warne and Clarke probably not gonna bowl cos of his back, you really have to feel for Australia if they dont make a breakthrough in the first hour after lunch. They may decide to bowl wide of off stump for an hour and see if they can bore out a batsmen similar to what England did to Clarke in the 1st test (or was it 2nd?).
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
Bad session for Australia there - particularly the no-balls. Again, questions have to be asked of Buchanan over this. It's just not acceptable for an international side, let alone one that's been the best in the world for some time.

It looks again like we're going to have to rely on a lot of overs from Warne. Things have a tendency to look so out of control when McGrath's not leading this attack.
 

Burpey

Cricketer Of The Year
I have refrained from saying it for ages, but Australia are really sucking at the moment. We look totally useless and I do not seeing us winning this Test.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Nuffy said:
I think this is a wake up call for Australian groundsmen.

Last season they prepared pitches that suited India down to the ground, now we have the Eng groundsmen preparing pitches to suit the Eng team.

:Lets hope we see the same strategy this Australian summer, its a legit tactic no issue with that, but lets hope everyone does it.
The way things are going, the only way that Australian groundsmen are going to be able to produce wickets to help this standard of attack would be to flood the grounds so they haven't got to play. I mean, you guys are good at swimming.

Whingeing Aussies. Don't you love them?
 

Nuffy

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
No coincidence that Eng have a bowling coach and Aus don't, Cricket Australia flicked DK Lillee, what a masterstroke.

What exactly does Buchanan do?

The fielding is poor, the bowlers are clueless and the batsman have no patience.

What functions would a coach have influence over?
 

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