That was inevitable reallyshaka said:bowled off a no ball and Lee goes to celebrate
Yes it is. You just stuffed it up. Its still a critical toss to win, you didn't make the most of it.FaaipDeOiad said:It's not critical because it was an advantage to England. If anything, it was Ponting's error that was critical, as it gave England the crucial first use of the pitch. It doesn't matter who's fault it was, the fact is if you win the toss and the opposition get the best of the conditions, it's not a critical toss.
I apologise, my bad.FaaipDeOiad said:I never said anything about bad luck mate, that was nuffy.
How can you say they're not as crucial when Ponting could have in all probability won the Test (and probably the series) if he'd made the correct decision? That toss was crucial, not critical by your definition, but certainly crucial.FaaipDeOiad said:I never said anything about bad luck mate, that was nuffy. I said that Australia's two toss wins were not as crucial as England's, because on both occasions England got a significant advantage out of winning it while Australia didn't.
England not appealing when Martyn nicked one to the keeper, England having Pietersen fielding at midwicket, want me to go on...Nuffy said:SP, lets have alook at the last day of the 3rd test for a few gems that ran Eng's way, Martyns decision, Warnes dismissal, want me to go on.
Plenty of Eng commentators have said that Eng have had by far the best of the luck, Boycott said today that the toss was absolutely vital today, and more so after Mcgraths injury.
No one is suggesting that Eng aren't playing good cricket, but they are so with the benefit of bucket loads of good luck to go with it.
Does that mean it would have been close if Trescothick hadn't dragged on, or it would have been close if Lee hadn't overstepped?FaaipDeOiad said:Very much England's session. The no ball wicket at the end just clinched it, it would have been a close one aside from that.
The way things are going, the only way that Australian groundsmen are going to be able to produce wickets to help this standard of attack would be to flood the grounds so they haven't got to play. I mean, you guys are good at swimming.Nuffy said:I think this is a wake up call for Australian groundsmen.
Last season they prepared pitches that suited India down to the ground, now we have the Eng groundsmen preparing pitches to suit the Eng team.
:Lets hope we see the same strategy this Australian summer, its a legit tactic no issue with that, but lets hope everyone does it.