***Official*** Australia in England (The Ashes)

[chaminda_00]

Blasphemy! Boycott is brilliant. Nasser is actually one of the better people out of the crap on Sky too. Boycott is one step behind Richie in my mind, great commentator, very insightful.

There are some insightful comments, but there is also a lot of crap in between.

 

[social]

I don't care much about poor decisions usually. Everyone gets them from time to time. But, that Koertzen decision was something else... the others had justification even though they were wrong. The Lee one was just... astonishing.

Its why Clarke's decision was IMO a poor one.

If youre going to give Clarke where, at best, the ball will snick the top of leg stump then, to be consistent, the same tolerance must be given to all appeals.

Unfortunately, hawk-eye has shown a no. of appeals to be far closer than that.

 

[King_Ponting]

No point warne going around the wicket. Stupid ploy. Now we can watch peitersen just pad it away all day

 

[chaminda_00]

England need this analyst guy on their coaching panel, his great.

 

[King_Ponting]

Not a lot of faith invested in Gillespie here by Ponting - only bowled four overs so far. Perhaps he'll get a shot at the tail. The figures don't look anything terrible, but I missed his spell. How'd he bowl?

Great hit from Pietersen, you have to respect the guy's belligerence. The game's well over, so it's all points-scoring for the next one.

Speak of the devil......

 

[Isolator]

Nasser is actually one of the better people out of the crap on Sky too.

I might have agreed with you earlier, but his "beamer" comment has really infuriated me. You wouldn't be calling it a beamer had Pietersen hit that *FULL TOSS* for four, would you, Hussain?

 

[aussie]

interesting option for Warne to go around the wicket to KP, i remember vividly in the 98 series againts India when he did the same thing to Tendulkar and he hit Warne all over the place. Dont think KP has the same class to do that though.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

interesting option for Warne to go around the wicket to KP, i remember vividly in the 98 series againts India when he did the same thing to Tendulkar and he hit Warne all over the place. Dont think KP has the same class to do that though.

Warne often goes around the wicket to negate people who are trying to hit him. It's an effective tactic, it allows him to hit the rough and use the natural angle of his delivery to create more movement away from the right-hander, and makes someone with a leg-side bias like Pietersen hit against the turn. He's trying to get him to edge one to Hayden, or try and hit against the spin and get caught at deep midwicket. Or, just frustrate him by shutting down his scoring.

 

[chaminda_00]

I can see why KP averages 50 odd in FC cricket. If you don't get him out early he will put on 30 to 40 so quickly. It would be interesting to see what the breakdown of his runs in FC cricket. My guess would be quite a few 0-10, then a lot 30-50. I wouldn't expect too many in between those figures.

 

[aussie]

Warne often goes around the wicket to negate people who are trying to hit him. It's an effective tactic, it allows him to hit the rough and use the natural angle of his delivery to create more movement away from the right-hander, and makes someone with a leg-side bias like Pietersen hit against the turn. He's trying to get him to edge one to Hayden, or try and hit against the spin and get caught at deep midwicket. Or, just frustrate him by shutting down his scoring.

well in this case i think its he doing it more to frustrate KP.

 

[King_Ponting]

I can see why KP averages 50 odd in FC cricket. If you don't get him out early he will put on 30 to 40 so quickly. It would be interesting to see what the breakdown of his runs in FC cricket. My guess would be quite a few 0-10, then a lot 30-50. I wouldn't expect too many in between those figures.

Alot like ponting

 

[chaminda_00]

Alot like ponting

more like Gilly i would think....

 

[vic_orthdox]

Well, I've managed to read through about 30 pages of the thread...

and no-one mentioned one of the best pieces of bowling I've seen in a long time. In the first innings, when KP was getting going, he then hit Warne for a massive six. The next ball - when most spinners would have tried to dart one in to get a dot and try and build some pressure - Warne went wide of the crease and tossed one up, with a lot more overspin. So a ball that would usually drift into the pads of the batsman stayed outside of off-stump, and forced Pieterson to reach a long way to hit it - resulting in him miscuing it to Martyn.

That to me showed why Warne is so good.

 

[superkingdave]

that's it for the day

 

[aussie]

That to me showed why Warne is so good.

just good, thats an understatement mate

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

Australia should wrap it up tomorrow, weather permitting. Warne and Lee did he job today, great bowling from both. Lee's answered a lot of questions as far as I'm concerned. I thought he'd do well, but still wasn't sure how he'd go with a period without getting a wicket with the old ball and no swing... and we've seen that and he handled it beautifully. Kasprowicz and Gillespie will be fighting it out for the third seamer spot for the rest of the year from here.

 

[aussie]

well Australia have jsut about won this now, England top 4 have a lot to think about especially Vaughan he seems to be a shadow of the bastman that made him #1 in the world. The biggest surprise for me in this test so far has been KP, before this test everyone including myself was saying he shouldn't have played because he was wrongly touted has a slogger because of some good innings in ODI cricket but he has truly proved his critcis wrong, while everyone was standing behind Bell, while the only effect Freddie will have on the Aussies in this series will be with the ball.With the iron-man now retired England have serious problems in the middle order.

Mr.Giles will have to watch his place has well, with the way the aussies have played him the selectors should definately start thinking about playing 6 batsmen.

 

[chaminda_00]

Kasprowicz and Gillespie will be fighting it out for the third seamer spot for the rest of the year from here.

Yep until Tait makes his debut and then they will be fighting for the 12th Man spot.

 

[King_Ponting]

Kasprowicz and Gillespie will be fighting it out for the third seamer spot for the rest of the year from here.

Shall be quite the tussle as well. Gillespie has been bowling poorly and i think kaspa will take gillespies spot before the series is over

 

[tooextracool]

well the only thing that can save england from losing this game & and the series miserably is the rain. as each of those wickets fell, courtesy of some clueless english batting against shane warne, i kept coming up with a new word(all of which are unacceptable to use on this forum) to describe our current selectors who managed to pull an absolute master stroke of dropping thorpe and then pretty much convincing him to retire. as was expected bell looked like a complete novice against spin, strauss and trescothick(the latter of which is the most surprising) manged to make complete fools out of themselves and it was only pietersen who looked anything like convicing against pace and spin alike. for a team that supposedly thinks they have a chance of winning the ashes, to not be able to pick warnes straighter ball after having seen him bowl for 12 years is downright stupid. from an aussie viewpoint, mcgrath, lee and warne all bowled quite brilliantly and when kaspa does come back into this side, they really are going to cause some real problems to england.