***Official*** Australia in England 2018

[91Jmay]

Kind of wicket I’m not overly delighted with. Short looked really below average

 

[Mr Miyagi]

At the en.d of this series aus will be ranked 6th in odi.

Even without Stokes, Woakes and Morgan - England will just grind them out of it.

 

[vcs]

Australia really are dire in ODIs ATM, somehow they'll turn it around by the time the WC rolls around, though.

 

[ajdude]

why would they **** with the one thing that has actually worked over the last couple of years in ODIs and move finch down the order?

 

[91Jmay]

Yeah Finch is completely unsuited to coming in at 4. Talk about accentuating a weakness
Wait he came in at 5 lmao

 

[vcs]

Aussies showing good patience here, decent chance of batting out the draw IMO

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Maxwell. Oh buddy

 

[fredfertang]

What have England, Ireland and France got in common?

 

[Borges]

England hasn't got it as yet. At least in theory.

 

[Jack1]

Short should open. Head is a joke, shouldn't even be in the team.

I'd be more scared of Australia in ODIs if Maxwell was opening with license to do what he wants. Obviously ideally Warner would be the open, but that can't happen now

 

[Borges]

Are these Australians trying to win this game? Or are they trying to lose it by a margin that does not look very big?

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Agar with a career-defining knock here

 

[slippy888]

Tim Paine batting makes Ian Healy look like viv Richards when he bats

 

[91Jmay]

Surely Aus have better specialist Bats than Agar? I assume that’s what he’s playing as given how he bowls

 

[slippy888]

Agar is a fine all rounder

 

[Gnske]

why would they **** with the one thing that has actually worked over the last couple of years in ODIs and move finch down the order?

Because batting at 5 in the IPL means you should do it all the time.

 

[stephen]

For me, Finch needs to open.

Finch
Short
S Marsh
Head
Stoinis
Maxwell
Agar
Paine
Tye
K Richardson
Stanlake

Jhye didn't do too badly but I feel more comfortable with the other two fast bowlers.

Obviously Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood, Bherendorff and maybe a couple of others should be ahead of these bowlers in the pecking order, but Stanlake looks like he has so much potential. Could be an ATG if he stops hurting himself.

Just goes to show that cutting off your nose to spite your face isn't going to win you games of cricket. How much better does this look:

Finch
Warner
S Marsh
S Smith
Stoinis
Maxwell
Agar
Paine
Tye
K Richardson
Stanlake

Also, Khawaja really should come into consideration. He had fantastic ODD form last season.

 

[NUFAN]

Its a tough watch seeing this type of cricket in SD.

What a terrible XI too, Paine shouldnt be playing, nor S Marsh (who prob will make runs in 1 of the games).

Well there are the S Marsh runs.

BTW, the result of this Western Australia vs England match was a forgone conclusion, I was happy to take $1.62 on offer.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

For me, Finch needs to open.

Finch
Short
S Marsh
Head
Stoinis
Maxwell
Agar
Paine
Tye
K Richardson
Stanlake

Jhye didn't do too badly but I feel more comfortable with the other two fast bowlers.

Obviously Starc, Cummins, Hazlewood, Bherendorff and maybe a couple of others should be ahead of these bowlers in the pecking order, but Stanlake looks like he has so much potential. Could be an ATG if he stops hurting himself.

Just goes to show that cutting off your nose to spite your face isn't going to win you games of cricket. How much better does this look:

Finch
Warner
S Marsh
S Smith
Stoinis
Maxwell
Agar
Paine
Tye
K Richardson
Stanlake

Also, Khawaja really should come into consideration. He had fantastic ODD form last season.

That is all fine and well, but just like when England beat Australia in Australia earlier this year, Australia batting has a clear SR problem as against the England team on flat pitches.

Shaun Marsh scored 131(116) sure looks impressive, but it was still below the asking run rate from the innings start, and the RRR got to 10.7 after 40 overs, 8.95 after 30 overs and 8 after 20 overs.

I don't think Paine is right for the team as against Carey for a start based on strike rate. There is definitely still room for accumulators in ODI, but I think Australia needs to build its team to a plan the way Punter rebuilt the t20 team to a plan. Doesn't need to be the same plan, but something coherent at least. I'm not sure what Australian cricket fans think, but I am just not seeing one for the ODI team being demonstrated, not in India on the last tour there, not at home in Australia, and not here now. There has been so much reliance on Finch or Warner scoring big while fast, that even when they have, Australia have still lost.

The Australian ODI cricket teams of late just seem constantly quite ad hoc put together. Stoinis seems to have a different role every game (from specialist bat, to middle order all-rounder, to top order all rounder). Some days the team bats out at 7 (incl Paine), some days at 8. The balance is constantly in flux. Some injured players are irreplacable, like Stokes and Woakes for England, but they try to keep a winning formula with smart adjustments based on the available talent which drops away very fast as they don't have depth in selection. But then they get creative, like squeeze in some Joe Root overs to spare Willey from the death still. Some very smart cricket being shown by their leadership.

 

[NUFAN]

Surely Aus have better specialist Bats than Agar? I assume that’s what he’s playing as given how he bowls

The annoying thing about all these Western Australia picks is that one of the WA guys that I really want to see in Australia colours is Ashton Turner, who isn't being considered for some reason. You watch Turner and he is just such a clean striker of the ball and his technique can definitely translate in Internationals, across probably all 3 formats (but in particular T20s and ODIs).

I quoted your post because Turner is the type of player who should be given an opportunity in the middle order. I also think that Daniel Hughes could have been given a chance up the top.