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***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

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Tom Halsey

International Coach
duffer said:
He inherited a legendary defence, plus Bergkamp and Wright but the rest of the team he made himself. To take over a squad which wasn't anything special especially compared to Sir Alex's at the time and win the double so quickly was a fabulous achievement.

Too bad he still hasn't properly replaced that defence, although Senderos looked the dog's bollox last night.
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That's still alot better than the team Ferguson inherited.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Tom Halsey said:
Conveniently ignoring his domestic record because it suits you. 8-)

He was never given a chance to prove himself at International level.
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I'd say 15 (?) caps is enough of a go at that level for a coach to make his mind up about a player.

I think Cole's poo first touch was a liability at international level. He scored once IIRC?
 
twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
Cole was a great premiership striker, he could turn on a six pence and had a good eye for goal. However even as a MU supporter he was a tad one dimensional for the international game. And he wasn't as good as shearer, which isn't to say he was bad.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
twctopcat said:
Cole was a great premiership striker, he could turn on a six pence and had a good eye for goal. However even as a MU supporter he was a tad one dimensional for the international game. And he wasn't as good as shearer, which isn't to say he was bad.
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I agree totally. He really only had one trick (being quick, not a bad trick to have, but still) & against superior defenders it wasn't enough.

The fact he would struggle to trap a wet bag of cement never helped him either. ;)
 
twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
BoyBrumby said:
I agree totally. He really only had one trick (being quick, not a bad trick to have, but still) & against superior defenders it wasn't enough.

The fact he would struggle to trap a wet bag of cement never helped him either. ;)
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To put it kindly, though his touch wasn't the worst i've seen and he was a great poacher. The forward on my team, no he couldn't trap a bag of cement, hence his name "donkey".
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
BoyBrumby said:
I'd say 15 (?) caps is enough of a go at that level for a coach to make his mind up about a player.

I think Cole's poo first touch was a liability at international level. He scored once IIRC?
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If they were 15 off the reel I'd agree, but being in and out can't help.
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
twctopcat said:
1) Cole was a great premiership striker, he could turn on a six pence and had a good eye for goal.

2) However even as a MU supporter he was a tad one dimensional for the international game. And he wasn't as good as shearer, which isn't to say he was bad.
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1) Yes, and Saha having a worse record than Cole most certainly isn't a doshonour.

2) Fair enough, but the original point was that Saha having a worse record in the Premiership than Cole isn't a disgrace, and Marc hasn't yet said anything to make me change my mind there.
 
twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
Saha is a great player, he just needs a bit of confidence, anyone can see that. What marc says is irrelevant, he isn't exactly one to praise "Manure" players as he so delightfully puts it.
 
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