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***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
Langeveldt said:
Sorry to bring cricket into this.. But come the time when England start losing a lot of matches, out will come the "we don't like foreigners in our game" argument..

You reap what you sow
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Not really the right context is it?? I doubt there will be 11 pietersens in the england team and the scenario is very different.
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
Tom Halsey said:
And an Englishman... they support who they like. I can support Chelsea in Europe, but I'm not going to support the English team when they aren't English.

EDIT: At Hakon.
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Chelsea are hardly Roast beef an' yorkshire pud down the lion inn English are they? What major difference do a couple of players make? Fact is they are both nearly totally foreign..
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
Chelsea have Terry, Lampard, Johnson, Bridge, Cole, etc, plus no disgraceful divers like Pires.

Arsenal have Cole, Campbell, and a host of divers.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Tom Halsey said:
They weren't small, I guess, but they weren't that big. Wenger has spent money too, people seem to forget.
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True, but I bet Arsene's net expenditure is about half of Sir Alex's for the same period. Maybe even less.

Suffice to say (with all due respect to Herbert Chapman & Sir Matt) they're arguably the respective club's greatest ever managers.
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
Not sure about your second comment... Sir Matt is definately very nearly if not as good as Sir Alex, don't know enough about Chapman to comment though.
 
twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
Samuel_Vimes said:
Big hair, big beard? Sounds like Norwegians invading Lindisfarne to me...
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Who best?? He were a shaven 22 yr old stunner i'm afraid!! You can't have been referring to Charlton can you with his flowing locks surely?? :p
 
twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
Tom Halsey said:
Not sure about your second comment... Sir Matt is definately very nearly if not as good as Sir Alex, don't know enough about Chapman to comment though.
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Agreed, Busby's first team was as least as good as the '68 side. If it wasn't for Sir Matt, Man Utd wouldn't exist as it now is.
 
Neil Pickup

Neil Pickup

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I hate everything.

If that had happened on CM/FM, the forums would have been inundated with whinging about the "super keepers" bug. One shot York had. And then you add to that the beautiful facts that we should have had a penalty in stoppage time, they got away with two blatant back passes, we had goal disallowed after the ref had played on for a full 30 seconds after the initial flag for offside, their player made a clearance off the line you'd have to see to believe, their keeper made a couple of top saves, and squandered another half dozen chances.

I've just spent five minutes in the yard dropkicking a bottle into a wall and imagining it was the referee's head as a minor form of anger release... I really, really hate this stupid game.
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
twctopcat said:
Agreed, Busby's first team was as least as good as the '68 side. If it wasn't for Sir Matt, Man Utd wouldn't exist as it now is.
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Obviously the Munich tragedy makes it a moot point regarding the Babes; but Man U under him never achieved quite the dominance domestically that Sir Alex's teams have.

Of course that may simply be a reflection of the greater all-round strength of English football back then.

Here's a good trivia question: aside from Liverpool & Man U only two other teams have retained the League title since WW2. Who are they? (don't cheat!)
 
twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
Neil Pickup said:
I hate everything.

If that had happened on CM/FM, the forums would have been inundated with whinging about the "super keepers" bug. One shot York had. And then you add to that the beautiful facts that we should have had a penalty in stoppage time, they got away with two blatant back passes, we had goal disallowed after the ref had played on for a full 30 seconds after the initial flag for offside, their player made a clearance off the line you'd have to see to believe, their keeper made a couple of top saves, and squandered another half dozen chances.

I've just spent five minutes in the yard dropkicking a bottle into a wall and imagining it was the referee's head as a minor form of anger release... I really, really hate this stupid game.
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I love feeling the emotion through your words neil :D
 
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Tom Halsey

International Coach
BoyBrumby said:
Obviously the Munich tragedy makes it a moot point regarding the Babes; but Man U under him never achieved quite the dominance domestically that Sir Alex's teams have.

Of course that may simply be a reflection of the greater all-round strength of English football back then.

Here's a good trivia question: aside from Liverpool & Man U only two other teams have retained the League title since WW2. Who are they? (don't cheat!)
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He retained the title, something Arsenal haven't done for a while! ;):p


I see where you're coming from, but they would have achieved that dominance were it not for that plane crash, I'm almost certain of that. Remember the average age of the team when it was killed off.
 
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