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***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Tom Halsey said:
Bad decisions even themselves out over time, anyway.
Oh really?

Remind us how many penalties the away side has had at Old Trafford since the Premier League was formed?

So far this season:

Handball from Saha in 4th minute of injury time (when Fergie had a word) - 1 point.
Handball against Bolton - 1 point
Goals from non-existant Free kick AND corner against Liverpool - 3 points
Goal from dubious penalty - 2 points.

So only 7 of the 12 points have been dubious then...
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Yes, and everone points out those ones because everyone hates us.

No-one points that out about Arsenal, mysteriously...

Plenty of decisions have gone against us too. No-one remembers them.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
marc71178 said:
So go on then, enlighten us.

And please tell us about all these decisions in favour of Arsenal.
Well, once, when Manchester United were losing, the fourth official started to put only 3 minutes injury time up on the board. That was a decision against Man Utd rather than in favour of Arsenal, but it's about the same thing.

Sir Alex soon corrected him on his mistake, though.
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
marc71178 said:
So go on then, enlighten us.

And please tell us about all these decisions in favour of Arsenal.
Hmm, lets try the occasion a week or so ago, when a referee overturned a decision made by him for the first time ever (or so I'm told) because of Ar$ehole winging. No-one said a thing then.

IIRC the match was 0-0 against Fulham when that penalty decision was overturned, and it may have changed the course of the game.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Tom Halsey said:
Hmm, lets try the occasion a week or so ago, when a referee overturned a decision made by him for the first time ever (or so I'm told) because of Ar$ehole winging. No-one said a thing then.

IIRC the match was 0-0 against Fulham when that penalty decision was overturned, and it may have changed the course of the game.
Wasn't the referee proved to be correct in overturning his original decision? In other words, wasn't justice seen to be done?
 

Neil Pickup

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Tom Halsey said:
Whether he was correct or not, he shouldn't have allowed himself to be influenced by players.
He got the decision RIGHT - unless I'm mistaken, that's the general idea of refereeing?! (Law 5)

You just can't win...
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
Manure have moved on from that, that was their speciality a couple of seasons ago. Now they just give the Ref tea and biscuits in the dressing room at half time and a glass of wine afterwards. Taggart probably gets their speeding fines annulled aswell :p
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Samuel_Vimes said:
So the referee isn't allowed to realise he was wrong? 8-)
Considering it's never happened before...never happened to us, does it?

Seems like they get the bad ones overturned, whereas the rest have to out up with it.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Tom Halsey said:
Hmm, lets try the occasion a week or so ago, when a referee overturned a decision made by him for the first time ever (or so I'm told) because of Ar$ehole winging. No-one said a thing then.

It was actually owing to the reaction of both sets of players.

Andy Cole looked confused, so he thought "maybe I ought to rethink"

Then he got it right.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Tom Halsey said:
Maybe, it just makes me sick that a bunch of Ar$ehole moaners can do that, and get away with it...
Whereas Manure players just chase the referee around the field, thus disrupting play and the resulting disruption causes the penalty to be missed.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Tom Halsey said:
Seems like they get the bad ones overturned, whereas the rest have to out up with it.
Oh yes, Manure have to put up with rarely conceding penalties at home, and even then the ref not sending off the slaphead keeper who then uses gamesmanship to delay the penalty which he then saves.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
superkingdave said:
Taggart probably gets their speeding fines annulled aswell :p
Does he let them use the "I was using the hard shoulder because I have diarrhea and need to get to the loo at Old Trafford urgently" excuse?

I mean, that excuse is so full of cráp ;)
 

Neil Pickup

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Tom Halsey said:
Considering it's never happened before...never happened to us, does it?

Seems like they get the bad ones overturned, whereas the rest have to out up with it.
Never happened before, rubbish.

Liverpool v Roma, UEFA Cup Quarter Final?

And I change my mind all the time!
 

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