***Offical*** English Football Season 2004/05

[sledger]

damn you and yoru economics, lets keep it simple shall we ? those graphs prove nothing !

 

[marc71178]

Actually if you study them closely they quite clearly resemble the trajectory of Robert Pires on being tackled.

 

[Neil Pickup]

damn you and yoru economics, lets keep it simple shall we ? those graphs prove nothing !

They prove more than "palemro Better Birmingahm"

 

[Link]

Nice graph Neil, i came up with a similar one but i included Scotland as well

you might not even be able to believe how long that actually made me laugh for

 

[sledger]

They prove more than "palemro Better Birmingahm"

yes similarly to the way that anthony mcgraths averages prove that he is the best test allrounder in the world

 

[Neil Pickup]

yes similarly to the way that anthony mcgraths averages prove that he is the best test allrounder in the world

Exactly, no provable difference between the leagues!

 

[kendall]

What were those graphs showing exactly?

I would rather not compare the premiership to other leagues but it is undenaible that the top 3 are so far ahead and really no one apart from maybe liverpool will be able to get close to them in the forseeable future. This is bad for the game and will probably result in a european super league we will have to wait to see if that is a good thing or not

 

[Neil Pickup]

What were those graphs showing exactly?

I would rather not compare the premiership to other leagues but it is undenaible that the top 3 are so far ahead and really no one apart from maybe liverpool will be able to get close to them in the forseeable future. This is bad for the game and will probably result in a european super league we will have to wait to see if that is a good thing or not

Points per game distribution of clubs.

 

[sledger]

Exactly, no provable difference between the leagues!

yes but based on the evidence given in the stats there is no provable difference between anthony mgcrath and flintoff....but its common knowledge that one is far superior.

 

[Neil Pickup]

yes but based on the evidence given in the stats there is no provable difference between anthony mgcrath and flintoff....but its common knowledge that one is far superior.

Except in the runs, wickets and high score columns, on the LG/ICC rankings

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Except in the runs, wickets and high score columns, on the LG/ICC rankings

Not to mention that the sample space for Anthony McGrath is far too small to draw any statistically significant conclusions from.

 

[sledger]

struggling for comeback.......give me a while..

 

[sledger]

Not to mention that the sample space for Anthony McGrath is far too small to draw any statistically significant conclusions from.

and pickups graphs are ?

 

[Magrat Garlick]

and pickups graphs are ?

As they take into account 400-odd games in each league while Anthony McGrath played 2 (IIRC) tests, I'd say the sample space for his graphs is slightly larger.

Not that I can make head nor tail of them, either.

 

[sledger]

ok then, so in your honest opinion do you take my side to the argument or do you agree with neil ?

 

[Magrat Garlick]

ok then, so in your honest opinion do you take my side to the argument or do you agree with neil ?

I think the idiocy that is mass prize and TV money in the Champions' League has created an unhealable (there is a better word, but I can't get it at the mo) split between the haves and the have-nots of every league, not just the English. The only possible exception is the French, but I'm fairly confident that Marseille, Monaco and Lyon will break away from the pack in a couple of years (think they already have, in fact).

So basically, whether it be Sevilla, Palermo, PSG, NAC Breda, Hertha Berlin, Esbjerg, Sundsvall, Bodø/Glimt, Panahaiki, Ankaragucu, Braga...they're never gonna catch up on a consistent basis with the big clubs, and they're fairly even in skill.

 

[kendall]

This argument really is getting bogged down in stats and you can never really tell anyway the fact is that a few teams in all the countrys seem to be quite far ahead of everybody else and as i have already said this will result in a superleague i should think

 

[Neil Pickup]

I think the idiocy that is mass prize and TV money in the Champions' League has created an unhealable (there is a better word, but I can't get it at the mo) split between the haves and the have-nots of every league, not just the English. The only possible exception is the French, but I'm fairly confident that Marseille, Monaco and Lyon will break away from the pack in a couple of years (think they already have, in fact).

So basically, whether it be Sevilla, Palermo, PSG, NAC Breda, Hertha Berlin, Esbjerg, Sundsvall, Bodø/Glimt, Panahaiki, Ankaragucu, Braga...they're never gonna catch up on a consistent basis with the big clubs, and they're fairly even in skill.

So me.

 

[Scaly piscine]

Neville's sending off was an absolute classic, he practically backpassed it into the crowd - very Nevillesque in its dumbness and execution.

 

[marc71178]

It was good to see Moyes and Taggart have a little "chat" - I though Taggart was going to burst!