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Name your countries all star XI

biased indian

International Coach
I mean, Kirmani ahead of Engineer is one thing, but Sehwag ahead of Merchant? :blink:

And is L Amar Singh not > Prasanna TBH?
Kirmani and Sehwag where more personnel choices...

i thought will have 2 spinners in the team becuase almost every opposition we play have better players of pace than spinners
 

iamdavid

International Debutant
1.W.Ponsford
2.M.Hayden:ph34r:
3.D.Bradman
4.R.Ponting
5.G.Chappell
6.K.Miller
7.A.Gilchrist
8.A.Davidson
9.S.Warne
10.D.Lillee
11.G.McGrath
 

Flem274*

123/5
1. Mark Richardson
2. Glenn Turner
3. Bert Suttcliffe
4. Martin Crowe
5. Martin Donnelly
6. Bruce Taylor
7. Brendan McCullum
8. Richard Hadlee
9. Daniel Vettori
10. Shane Bond
11. Jack Cowie
 

White Lightning

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Matt Hayden
most dominating opening batsman we've ever had. may not have the best of techniques but hits the ball long and hard and scores loads of runs. been doing it for too long now to still be nit picking about his batting style

Bill Ponsford
probably the toughest position to name given any of Lawry, Simpson, Morris or Woodfull could take the role...

Don Bradman
guy at the pub told me he could bat so i'm just trusting him

Ricky Ponting
he's just a freak. will likely have legimate claims for an All Time XI by the time his career ends.

Greg Chappell
Between Ponting, and a host of other middle order batsman (S Waugh, Border, Harvey, Walters, Hassett etc,.) there is one standout in Greg Chappell. The emergence of Ponting at least means there is no tough decision about a number 5 battle between the aforementioned batsman.

Keith Miller
In the best 2 or 3 bowling all rounders of all time IMO. Another easy selection. Have him at 6 rather than Gilchrist even though AG is a better batsman. This is because Gilly bats at 7 regularly, while Miller regularly bats in the top or middle order. Its just a matter of keeping them where they're comfortable

Adam Gilchrist
Best keep-batsman we've had fullstop.

Shane Warne
the great leg spinner. i actually don't rate him as our best ever leg spinner (he's batting number 10). but still has to be in the team. Keith Miller allows two spinning options.

Dennis Lillee
Picks himself really

Bill O'Reilly
i rate him the best spinner ever. he's record speaks for itself at all levels, and the antidotes from the time as well as the very old grainy vision shows a man in complete control. from what i reckon, does everything warne does, but faster through the air, which accounts for his better record IMO

Glen McGrath
along with Lillee they stand out at the top IMO as our two best quicks.

I reckon its a pretty easy team to pick. there's one standout opener, three standout middle orders bats, one all rounder and keeper, and two standouts spinners and keepers.... basically i reckon there are 10 players that stick out above everyone. Only the second opener position was debated in my head.

a second XI team however we create massive debate, as there are at least 4 openers, about 8 or 9 middle orders bats, three keepers, and a number of bowlers including a couple of bowling all round options - Davidson and, to a lesser extent, Lindwall. Both could make it as bowlers in their own right anyway. Probably would. The only certain selection IMO is Clarrie Grimmet as the spinner.
 

White Lightning

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
a second XI team however we create massive debate, as there are at least 4 openers, about 8 or 9 middle orders bats, three keepers, and a number of bowlers including a couple of bowling all round options - Davidson and, to a lesser extent, Lindwall. Both could make it as bowlers in their own right anyway. Probably would. The only certain selection IMO is Clarrie Grimmet as the spinner.
just for the hell of it:

1 - Arthur Morris
2 - Bob Simpson
3 - Neil Harvey
4 - Stan McCabe
5 - Allan Border
6 - Steve Waugh
7 - Rod Marsh
8 - Alan Davidson
9 - Ray Lindwall
10 - Clarrie Grimmett
11 - Jason Gillespie (3rd quick a very tough one)

so tough, also considered - Woodfull, Lawry, Walters, Hassett, D Jones, Martyn, Healy, Benaud, MacKenzie, Hughes, Thomson, Alderman, Johnston.... hmmm i just inadvertedly named a 3rd XI with a couple of extra bowlers lol

didn't consider pre-WWI players. very hard to judge them given the low scores.
 

pasag

RTDAS
Matt Hayden
most dominating opening batsman we've ever had. may not have the best of techniques but hits the ball long and hard and scores loads of runs. been doing it for too long now to still be nit picking about his batting style

Bill Ponsford
probably the toughest position to name given any of Lawry, Simpson, Morris or Woodfull could take the role...

Don Bradman
guy at the pub told me he could bat so i'm just trusting him

Ricky Ponting
he's just a freak. will likely have legimate claims for an All Time XI by the time his career ends.

Greg Chappell
Between Ponting, and a host of other middle order batsman (S Waugh, Border, Harvey, Walters, Hassett etc,.) there is one standout in Greg Chappell. The emergence of Ponting at least means there is no tough decision about a number 5 battle between the aforementioned batsman.

Keith Miller
In the best 2 or 3 bowling all rounders of all time IMO. Another easy selection. Have him at 6 rather than Gilchrist even though AG is a better batsman. This is because Gilly bats at 7 regularly, while Miller regularly bats in the top or middle order. Its just a matter of keeping them where they're comfortable

Adam Gilchrist
Best keep-batsman we've had fullstop.

Shane Warne
the great leg spinner. i actually don't rate him as our best ever leg spinner (he's batting number 10). but still has to be in the team. Keith Miller allows two spinning options.

Dennis Lillee
Picks himself really

Bill O'Reilly
i rate him the best spinner ever. he's record speaks for itself at all levels, and the antidotes from the time as well as the very old grainy vision shows a man in complete control. from what i reckon, does everything warne does, but faster through the air, which accounts for his better record IMO

Glen McGrath
along with Lillee they stand out at the top IMO as our two best quicks.

I reckon its a pretty easy team to pick. there's one standout opener, three standout middle orders bats, one all rounder and keeper, and two standouts spinners and keepers.... basically i reckon there are 10 players that stick out above everyone. Only the second opener position was debated in my head.

a second XI team however we create massive debate, as there are at least 4 openers, about 8 or 9 middle orders bats, three keepers, and a number of bowlers including a couple of bowling all round options - Davidson and, to a lesser extent, Lindwall. Both could make it as bowlers in their own right anyway. Probably would. The only certain selection IMO is Clarrie Grimmet as the spinner.
just for the hell of it:

1 - Arthur Morris
2 - Bob Simpson
3 - Neil Harvey
4 - Stan McCabe
5 - Allan Border
6 - Steve Waugh
7 - Rod Marsh
8 - Alan Davidson
9 - Ray Lindwall
10 - Clarrie Grimmett
11 - Jason Gillespie (3rd quick a very tough one)

so tough, also considered - Woodfull, Lawry, Walters, Hassett, D Jones, Martyn, Healy, Benaud, MacKenzie, Hughes, Thomson, Alderman, Johnston.... hmmm i just inadvertedly named a 3rd XI with a couple of extra bowlers lol

didn't consider pre-WWI players. very hard to judge them given the low scores.
Nice stuff, welcome to the forum.
 

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
just for the hell of it:

1 - Arthur Morris
2 - Bob Simpson
3 - Neil Harvey
4 - Stan McCabe
5 - Allan Border
6 - Steve Waugh
7 - Rod Marsh
8 - Alan Davidson
9 - Ray Lindwall
10 - Clarrie Grimmett
11 - Jason Gillespie (3rd quick a very tough one)

so tough, also considered - Woodfull, Lawry, Walters, Hassett, D Jones, Martyn, Healy, Benaud, MacKenzie, Hughes, Thomson, Alderman, Johnston.... hmmm i just inadvertedly named a 3rd XI with a couple of extra bowlers lol

didn't consider pre-WWI players. very hard to judge them given the low scores.
A couple of really, really strong sides there mate - your first XI in particular is very close to the one I'd pick and I agree with most of your assessments.

Also like to add to pasag's welcome to the forum. Hope you stick around. :)
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Matt Hayden
most dominating opening batsman we've ever had. may not have the best of techniques but hits the ball long and hard and scores loads of runs. been doing it for too long now to still be nit picking about his batting style
:no2:

But I'll leave it at that. :)
 

White Lightning

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
:no2:

But I'll leave it at that. :)
there'd be a series of international and first class bowlers world wide who are the ones shaking their head after coming up against Hayden.

As i said, he's got a technique which could be described as flawed but who cares?? he's not the first, and he's not the last. Our other current incumbent Phil Jacques has a worse technique and what can be described as an awkward stance at best.

an average of 54 over the last 7 years (and that's ignoring his performance against Zimbabwe) is just too strong to argue against. Strong performances outside of Australia first - 3058 runs @ 47...

The only blip on his record in that time is the 2005 Ashes series... like the majority of batsman, even great batsman, there is a series they'd rather forget.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
there'd be a series of international and first class bowlers world wide who are the ones shaking their head after coming up against Hayden.

As i said, he's got a technique which could be described as flawed but who cares?? he's not the first, and he's not the last. Our other current incumbent Phil Jacques has a worse technique and what can be described as an awkward stance at best.

an average of 54 over the last 7 years (and that's ignoring his performance against Zimbabwe) is just too strong to argue against. Strong performances outside of Australia first - 3058 runs @ 47...

The only blip on his record in that time is the 2005 Ashes series... like the majority of batsman, even great batsman, there is a series they'd rather forget.
There are many blips in his record and many things besides this, but I really don't want to do all this for the 3,425,279th time.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Was nothing to do with Hayden TBH, more LT's stupid post, but not once have I ever really said Hayden ever deserves to be dropped.
 

White Lightning

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
fair enough.

on Hayden, you can crucify him for a slow start to his career but there'd be countless other to do as well. Bear in mind he still did score a ton against the Windies in 96/97 when they were a pretty good line up.

since the start of the Indian series (his 13th test) there hasn't been many down periods, and any there have been have lasted no time at all.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
As I said - I've no interest in doing the Hayden thing, I've done it countless times and people get tired of seeing the same thing done time and again.

In a nutshell - Hayden's purple-patch since 2001\02 (not 2000\01, he had a thoroughly poor time in 2001 in England even though much of the catching and bowling left plenty to be desired) has come at a time when pitches have been almost universally flat and seam-attacks have been almost universally weak. That's a very, very simple, watered-down version of events, but as I say - no-one wants to see me saying the same thing 239,461 times over.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Australian All Star XI

1. Alpha Crucis
2. Beta Crucis
3. Gamma Crucis
4. Delta Crucis
5. Sirius (C)
6. Canopus (Wk)
7. Alpha Centauri
8. Proxima Centauri (spinner - hard to pick as he can't be seen with the naked eye).
9. Fornax (or 'Warney' to his mates)
10. Eridanus ('Dry Arse')
11. Pictor

A formidable team there, even if I do say so myself. The highlight for mine would be the splendid rendition of 'Under the Southern Cross' Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta would belt out after every win.
 

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