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Muralitharan a burglar,a thief and a dacoit : Bedi

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Pratyush said:
The statement made for Murali has been that he has a natural defect and so should be allowed to play with it. Now if I have a natural defect and that means I can zip a bowl with a twist will that mean I will be allowed to play test cricket?

If some one has 3 legs and can run faster, doesnt mean he will be allowed to run in the olympics.
No, because that would be an unfair advantage.
Muralitharan doesn't break the rules with his elbow, which you would realise if you read the rules and made some proper analysis.
Murali's advantage comes from his double-jointed wrist; if you can find an illegality with that, you can find one with walking down the street.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Richard said:
Murali's advantage comes from his double-jointed wrist; if you can find an illegality with that, you can find one with walking down the street.
Which of course doesnt make him a chucker as you cant chuck from the wrist.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Yes, because almost every bowler has more than one delivery, and very rarely is the change of action an illegal one.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Which of course doesnt make him a chucker as you cant chuck from the wrist.
But his abnormality does allow him to bowl like a normal person cant. So that gives him an unfair advantage over the others. So shouldnt be allowed to play. Simple really.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Pratyush said:
But his abnormality does allow him to bowl like a normal person cant. So that gives him an unfair advantage over the others. So shouldnt be allowed to play. Simple really.
Joel Garner was 6'8".

Now THAT's what I call an unfair advantage over the others. Should he have been banned?
 

LankanPrince

School Boy/Girl Captain
I cannot believe the ignorance of Bedi here!:!( Muralitharan's action has been cleared by the ICC. That is a fact. I am not saying his bowling action is perfect but then their are plenty of bowlers who have had questionable actions such as Brett Lee and Shoaib Ahktar. None have recieved such a bad insult to their character like this. We should be supportive to Muralitharan. He is a credit to the game of cricket and has revitalised the art of spin bowling. He is loved by fans and players and alike and is an undoubtable success. It isn't fair to take away his great achievements just because the legality of his action his concerned. Maybe Bedi is jealous that he did not achieve such great feats. If he wants to criticise some real 'cheats' and 'theifs', he should look closer to home as their are enough match fixers in India. These people have commited crimes and have changed the course of games unfairly for players and fans with their greed for money. It is unfair to associate Murali as a 'cheat' and a 'thief' by degrading him in such a way. I think it is time some of these old retired cricketers learn lessons for malicious comments as they are not above the cricketing world to make such comments.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
LankanPrince said:

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It is unfair to associate Murali as a 'cheat' and a 'thief' by degrading him in such a way. I think it is time some of these old retired cricketers learn lessons for malicious comments as they are not above the cricketing world to make such comments.
I agree with this statement 100% (didn't quite agree with the way some of the earlier part of the post was put).

Bedi is just an Indian version of David Hookes, at best tolerated but preferably ignored to ferment in his own bile.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Bishan Bedi may have been a superb spinner but is a disgrace to put it mildly. He makes sweeping statements and behaves very brashly. As I said, a huge disgrace.
 

Craig

World Traveller
luckyeddie said:
Joel Garner was 6'8".

Now THAT's what I call an unfair advantage over the others. Should he have been banned?
Lol.

Delieverying the ball above the sightscreen :O

Bugger that for batting duds like me.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
By Lucky Eddie


Joel Garner was 6'8"
Now THAT's what I call an unfair advantage over the others. Should he have been banned?
It was not an abnormality. Basketball player George Muresan is 7'7". An abnormality shouldnt restrict some one from playing. But if he gets a huge advantage over the others due to this, I dont see reason why he should be allowed. Murali is one of the nicest and softest persons from what I have seen of him on tv but I just dont feel he should be playing international cricket if his abnormality helps him to bowl at an advantage over the others, some thing they cant do.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Pratyush said:
An abnormality shouldnt restrict some one from playing. But if he gets a huge advantage over the others due to this, I dont see reason why he should be allowed.
And being 3 or 4 inches taller than anyone else is to an extent an abnormality.
 

Neil Pickup

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Pratyush said:
But his abnormality does allow him to bowl like a normal person cant. So that gives him an unfair advantage over the others. So shouldnt be allowed to play. Simple really.
Glenn McGrath is taller than Ajit Agarkar so gets more bounce which is an unfair advantage...
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Craig said:
Lol.

Delieverying the ball above the sightscreen :O

Bugger that for batting duds like me.
The stupid thing was, that's so easily solved - just make bigger sightscreens!
There are so many bowlers who deliver from above so many Worldwide sightscreens - what is the point of them?
I am sure far less poor strokes would be played if sightscreens were bigger.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Pratyush said:
But his abnormality does allow him to bowl like a normal person cant. So that gives him an unfair advantage over the others. So shouldnt be allowed to play. Simple really.
luckyeddie said:
Joel Garner was 6'8".

Now THAT's what I call an unfair advantage over the others. Should he have been banned?
Pratyush said:
It was not an abnormality. Basketball player George Muresan is 7'7". An abnormality shouldnt restrict some one from playing. But if he gets a huge advantage over the others due to this, I dont see reason why he should be allowed. Murali is one of the nicest and softest persons from what I have seen of him on tv but I just dont feel he should be playing international cricket if his abnormality helps him to bowl at an advantage over the others, some thing they cant do.
As marc has pointed-out, being 7"7 and more than a foot taller than most people is a huge abnormality. But as long as the rules are not being broken there is no reason why any abnormality, no matter how unusual, should be different from any other. Shoaib Akhtar's arm is faster than most people's. Joel Garner was taller than most cricketers. Murali has a double-jointed wrist. In fact, there are far more people with double-jointed wrists than there are of height 6"8.
As long as the rules are not being broken, abnormalities are equal. It doesn't matter how much of an advantage is being gained by them, and how few others possess that advantage, if the rules aren't being broken I fail to see how anyone can possibly take exception.
 

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