Murali vs Ashwin ( home Test bowling )

[ma1978]

There is. Tahir, Harmer, Lyon, O'Keefe, Murphy, Patel all had cheap sizable series hauls this past decade. You had debutant spin rookies like Kuhnemann and Hartley win games by themselves.

Compare that to previous decades and there isn't much to compare really. Rarely did foreign spinners did that well.

The past decade, pitches generally have been a bit more spin friendly. This is so obvious that really its just disingenuous to not acknowledge it.

it’s not obvious. It’s not obvious at all. The numbers show that foreign spinners have done no better in India than decades past

 

[subshakerz]

it’s not obvious. It’s not obvious at all. The numbers show that foreign spinners have done no better in India than decades past

Which numbers?

And to be clear, you dont think there is any different in pitch support for spin in this versus previous decades?

 

[ma1978]

Which numbers?

And to be clear, you dont think there is any different in pitch support for spin in this versus previous decades?

no arguably less

non Indian spin bowlers average I think 37 since 2010, 39 in the 2000s and 36 in the 1990s. The differentials between Jndian and non Indian spinners has never been larger

 

[subshakerz]

no arguably less

non Indian spin bowlers average I think 37 since 2010, 39 in the 2000s and 36 in the 1990s. The differentials between Jndian and non Indian spinners has never been larger

Hmm will need to doublecheck those numbers but having watched games in India since the 90s, I havent seen them be so sporting.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Non Indian spin bowling averages in India

1990s - 41.72
2000s - 44.78
2010s - 42.36

 

[ma1978]

Non Indian spin bowling averages in India

1990s - 41.72
2000s - 44.78
2010s - 42.36

Directionally the same as mine, I may have missed some series but completely eviscerates Subz argument

 

[PlayerComparisons]

2020s was around 33 tbf which is a pretty significant difference. Most of Ashwins career was in the 2010s tho.

 

[Xix2565]

2020s was around 33 tbf which is a pretty significant difference. Most of Ashwins career was in the 2010s tho.

That's all Ganguly and Jay Shah tbh. Criminals running the asylum never works out in the long run.