Murali: I will continue to bowl the doosra

[Dasa]

What I don't understand is why are people making such a big deal about Murali now? Whether he chucks or not is somewhat irrelevant now, since he's already taken 520-odd wickets. Surely, it's a bit late to be complaining now, it's not like you can remove those wickets from test records.

 

[krkode]

Murali could break John Howard's stumps any day.

 

[age_master]

from memory John Howard is an off spinner, he got it exactly right though

 

[marc71178]

What I don't understand is why are people making such a big deal about Murali now? Whether he chucks or not is somewhat irrelevant now, since he's already taken 520-odd wickets. Surely, it's a bit late to be complaining now, it's not like you can remove those wickets from test records.

The complaints are now about the one ball though, and that has only just come into action!

 

[Dasa]

I was referring to those who believe that Murali is a chucker full stop, not just the doosra.
It seems as if the furore surrounding the doosra has made it open season for Murali-bashing.

 

[chicane]

I was referring to those who believe that Murali is a chucker full stop, not just the doosra.
It seems as if the furore surrounding the doosra has made it open season for Murali-bashing.

Absolutely. Dion Ebrahim being the latest to join in.

 

[luckyeddie]

With Australian and Sri Lankan politicians now allowing themselves to become embroiled in what is, on the face of it, quite the most petty and trivial of matters, I feel that a number of other issues ought to looked at with the greatest of urgency.

To wit,

1. When Henry Cooper floored Muhammad Ali (then Cassius Clay) in the 1960's just before the bell, Ali's manager, Algelo Dundee, 'happened' to find a tear in a glove (which wasn't there before). The resultant 2 minute delay while an undamaged boxing glove was fetched allowed Ali to regain his faculties. It ultimately was him and not Henry Cooper who won the right to challenge Sonny Liston for the world title. It is my contention that every bout over the last 41 years should be re-fought. Any boxers who are in fact dead should be given a little longer to beat the count.

2. When Russian linesman Tofik Bakhramov signalled to referee Gottfried Dienst that in his opinion the ball had crossed the line during the first period of extra time in the 1966 World Cup Final, he did West Germany a real injustice by handing England the lead and ultimately the cup. The amount of national pride which the Germans were unfairly robbed of may have sustained East Germany and the rest of the Soviet Bloc and thus indirectly have been instrumental in the Berlin Wall being allowed to remain in place for a further quarter of a century, prolonging communism in the process. In addition, England would not have been holders during the 1970 tournament, consequently they would not have had a world cup to lose. This would render invalid the chants and taunts of football supporters at Geoff Astle and Bobby Moore ('Astle lost the World Cup' and 'Where's your bracelet, Bobby Moore? In your handbag') invalid.

3. Charles Bannerman should have been strangled at birth.

 

[Linda]

Howard commented because he wouldve been asked. He's well-known here for his cricket *obsession*, and the Murali action is a current topic in Australia. I dont see whats wrong with giving his opinion about a sport he loves.

 

[luckyeddie]

Howard commented because he wouldve been asked. He's well-known here for his cricket *obsession*, and the Murali action is a current topic in Australia. I dont see whats wrong with giving his opinion about a sport he loves.

There isn't - until he does it again (like yesterday).

It's called 'ponting'.

Main Entry: pont
Function: verb
intransitive senses
1 : to repeatedly open mouth in order to determine whether the other foot is more comfortable <ponting a prat>
2 : to imply unnecessary criticism by roundabout means <ponting an opinion>

 

[Scallywag]

With Australian and Sri Lankan politicians now allowing themselves to become embroiled in what is, on the face of it, quite the most petty and trivial of matters, I feel that a number of other issues ought to looked at with the greatest of urgency.

How are the Australian politicians embroiled in it. Howard only said he believed in what the tests had proven. If he had said no then he would have been calling the report on Murali a lie.

 

[luckyeddie]

How are the Australian politicians embroiled in it. Howard only said he believed in what the tests had proven. If he had said no then he would have been calling the report on Murali a lie.

It was an introduction to a joke.
Merriam-Webster describes a joke as...


Main Entry: 1joke
Pronunciation: 'jOk
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin jocus; perhaps akin to Old High German gehan to say, Sanskrit yAcati he asks
1 a : something said or done to provoke laughter; especially : a brief oral narrative with a climactic humorous twist b (1) : the humorous or ridiculous element in something (2) : an instance of jesting <my mum said it would be all right if I took one of these>

 

[JASON]

Mural: I will continue to bowl the doosra

Howard commented because he wouldve been asked. He's well-known here for his cricket *obsession*, and the Murali action is a current topic in Australia. I dont see whats wrong with giving his opinion about a sport he loves.

Of course there is nothing wrong with it. It is the Media mongerel's fault for giving it the degree of publicity it got . Afterall no one asks Brad Fittler if he thinks the Middleeast war was justified.(No would they give publicity for his opinions on the matter). Howard is no cricket expert just as Srilanka PM's expertise on Litigation law. Howard, however by initiating this exchange, converted it into a political issue and gave the Srilankan PM little choice but to support his embattled countryman.

By repeating the comments again he has shown that he has total disregard for the hurt he is causing the Sri Lankan spinner. (or that his initial comments were deliberate and intended to create as much damage as possible. Hence I wonder if this was all stage managed and scripted by some spin doctor in Canberra.)
To their credit, I did not see a single comment from any SriLankan politician when Shane Warne claimed the diuretics he took were his mothers and that he took them to look nicer!! They all believed him just as the hearing panel appointed by the ACB!!

Am I the only person thinking that this is getting a bit out of hand or what?
I think polititians should leave the cricket fields to us the fans and the cricket achievers. Afterall any donkey can become a polititian but not everyone can become an International Cricketer let alone a spinner or leading wicket taker in Test cricket.(chucker or not)

 

[Scallywag]

Its not a controversial issue it is plain and clear that Murali chucks. Some people deny that he throws and sling mud at people who say he does. But it still remains proven that Murali throws. He was called by the match referee and this was proven in tests so Howard saying yes to the question is nothing out of the ordinary. I notice some take the high moral ground and call Howard names to prove they are right.

 

[marc71178]

Its not a controversial issue it is plain and clear that Murali chucks.

Incorrect - one delivery he is deemed to chuck (by people who are qualified to say that sort of thing)

 

[Scallywag]

Incorrect - one delivery he is deemed to chuck (by people who are qualified to say that sort of thing)

Here are Howards exact words and as you can read he agrees that those who are qualified say that sort of thing.

Pushed on the subject on Queensland radio this morning, Mr Howard said: "My understanding is that there were some tests carried out in Perth, weren't there? And there were some conclusions that came out of that, and those conclusions were adopted by the ICC. I don't know that I've got anything to add to that."

 

[Kenny]

Incorrect - one delivery he is deemed to chuck (by people who are qualified to say that sort of thing)

Marc, he has been tested under laboratory like conditions at bloody half rat power, based on the deliveries I saw on TV - who knows what the guy does on the field? Even under those dubious conditions, a delivery was deemed to be illegal!
Murali saying 'I will continue to bowl the doosra' merely proves that the guy thinks he is bigger than then game - I hope he does bowl it and I hope he gets banned. He deserves it, his action and the farcical situation we have of such a bowler holding the world record is bringing the game into disrepute, and in fact making it a laughing stock.
We have been arguing this for ages, and the controversy is just getting worse and worse, bigger and bigger. The latest tests, soft as they were, tell us one of his deliveries is illegal, under the rules of the game - what happens?
There's talk of changing the rules, the idiot Sri Lankan cricket guru is talking about legal action against the ICC, Murali says he will keep bowling it regardless, and Chris Broad will never referee a Sri Lankan match again.
FARCICAL.

 

[marc71178]

Here are Howards exact words and as you can read he agrees that those who are qualified say that sort of thing.

How is that comment relevant to the comment which I made regarding you saying:

Its not a controversial issue it is plain and clear that Murali chucks.

 

[marc71178]

Murali saying 'I will continue to bowl the doosra' merely proves that the guy thinks he is bigger than then game - I hope he does bowl it and I hope he gets banned. He deserves it, his action and the farcical situation we have of such a bowler holding the world record is bringing the game into disrepute, and in fact making it a laughing stock.

But that's the problem, the rest of his action has been cleared as legal, and until people accept that fact then this argument will not go away.

If he bowls the Doosra again then I hope he is reported for it, but if he doesn't then there is no case to answer...

 

[Langeveldt]

Marc, he has been tested under laboratory like conditions at bloody half rat power, based on the deliveries I saw on TV - who knows what the guy does on the field? Even under those dubious conditions, a delivery was deemed to be illegal!
Murali saying 'I will continue to bowl the doosra' merely proves that the guy thinks he is bigger than then game - I hope he does bowl it and I hope he gets banned. He deserves it, his action and the farcical situation we have of such a bowler holding the world record is bringing the game into disrepute, and in fact making it a laughing stock.
We have been arguing this for ages, and the controversy is just getting worse and worse, bigger and bigger. The latest tests, soft as they were, tell us one of his deliveries is illegal, under the rules of the game - what happens?
There's talk of changing the rules, the idiot Sri Lankan cricket guru is talking about legal action against the ICC, Murali says he will keep bowling it regardless, and Chris Broad will never referee a Sri Lankan match again.
FARCICAL.

Good post totally agreed...

 

[marc71178]

Why does that not surprise me?!