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most talented young player!

iamdavid

International Debutant
Ed Cowan's First-Class record is very impressive.
I assume so , this is the guy born & raised in Sydney who played a few matches for Oxford UCCE last year.

And with all the hype on him he got knocked over by the beloved Comets last month for 20odd :lol: :lol: .
 

iamdavid

International Debutant
Neil informed me a while ago that every junior player in England gets their complete & up to date stats posted on the net , complete with all these run scoring graphs & everything , I checked it out , very detailed , told me everything from Neil's batting average of 1.75 to his match turning 6* , or was it 7* , anyway :P

Thats actually pretty impressive , out here I cant even find stats for most Sydney first grade players & certainly none of our juniors clubs could be stuffed putting that sort of comitment into their websites.

Guess we spend our money on producing good cricketers rather than keeping the figures up to date eh :P
 

Neil Pickup

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raju said:
Don't your mob tour the Vale Of Evesham every summer? I'm sure they stay at my mate's drinker for about a week every August.
I remember playing against a Caistor touring team a few years ago when I played for the Evesham club.
That's the one.

Originally posted by iamdavid
Neil informed me a while ago that every junior player in England gets their complete & up to date stats posted on the net , complete with all these run scoring graphs & everything , I checked it out , very detailed , told me everything from Neil's batting average of 1.75 to his match turning 6* , or was it 7* , anyway

Thats actually pretty impressive , out here I cant even find stats for most Sydney first grade players & certainly none of our juniors clubs could be stuffed putting that sort of comitment into their websites.

Guess we spend our money on producing good cricketers rather than keeping the figures up to date eh
Match saving, 25-ball, 6*. Career HS :saint:

It's all down to whether the clubs have got the members who can be bothered to spend the time putting all the statistics online.

http://www.caistor.play-cricket.com/
 

Top_Cat

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Back on topic, the best young player around (other than Michael Clarke) is without a doubt one Shaun Marsh. I had never seen him before I saw him in the Aust A game in Perth and he was CLASSY. The shot off his legs second ball was magic. He's got a fairly minimalist technique too - no nonsense. He's got the look and feel of his Dad Geoff Marsh but the attitude, timing and sheer brute power of a Gilchrist or Klusener. He also has his Dad's temperament as he was able to score at a run-a-ball even when Aust A were 6/66.

A potential great, in my book. All he needs is the opportunity and I think he'll excell.
 

Blewy

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The Innings of Marcus North today was also a very very good innings...
Clarke again showed his class, and i do agree with TC that Marsh's innings the other night was very good..

On the bowling front i feel that Adam Griffiths of Tasmania bowled pretty well in both games
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
what about tait 8-43 again's tasmaina?

the 9 wides and 4 no-ball's need's addressing but he is bloody good when he get's the thing online.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Eclipse said:
what about tait 8-43 again's tasmaina?

the 9 wides and 4 no-ball's need's addressing but he is bloody good when he get's the thing online.
Let's not go overboard here - he's young (20), desperately inexperienced (still less than 40 first-class wickets) and Australian.

Oh, right, 1 out of 3. Get him in the test side then.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Eclipse said:
what about tait 8-43 again's tasmaina?

the 9 wides and 4 no-ball's need's addressing but he is bloody good when he get's the thing online.
And especially on a green wicket. What's his seam position like?
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
Craig said:
And especially on a green wicket. What's his seam position like?
Cant beleive you have not seen him yet.

Any way there is nothing wrong with his seam position infact he get's heap's of life out of the wicket and swing's the ball fantasticly in and out.

He still has many of the traditional fast bowler trait's though he is quite often short or full ( not as bad as Lee) and often loses controll of his swing and bowl's a few wides.
 

Richard

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marc71178 said:
And then all but nothing for a third of the season.
Yes, and I believe that will be redressed next season.
Shall we just agree not to discuss it until next season? Unless he gets picked for Tests in WI.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
raju said:
Why do you choose 1998? Why not 1995, 1999, or 2000?
Only because it suits your spurious train of thought.
And even after adjusting the figures to suit yourself he averages a mediocre 37.

And what is his proper position? Surely he spent the vast majority of his career batting at 3 for Middlesex. He averages 10 batting at number 3 in test cricket and 24 batting at 4 (his NORMAL position now in county cricket).
At 5 & 6 his average improves to 35 and 32 respectively. But 5 & 6 ain't his normal position but you still include those scores in his stats when it suits you.

BOTTOM LINE: 92 test innings, 12 50s, 2 100s.
No, not bottom line, because you can't get away with generalisations and grouping things into groups that they don't belong in.
Like it or not, Ramprakash changed as a Test player when he scored a crucial 48 in the second-innings of The Sixth Test in 1997. I choose that time because of that fact. 37 is not a mediocre average; it is very good compared to other Englishmen. I am the first to say that the substandardness of others doesn't detract from the substandardness of one, but I am also the first to say take averages in context.
Ramprakash's proper position is basically anywhere from three to six, occasionally down to seven if seven batsmen are playing. You're wrong that he batted three for most of his career, you've mixed-up two positions - he batted mosty four for Middx, now he's mostly three for Surrey.
In any position from three to six since 1998, he averages over 37 in Test-cricket. This transformation means past failures need be forgotten as no more than a bad memory. Just like they were with, amongst others, Ponting, Stephen Waugh, Marytn and Langer. And it looks like Katich may join this list.
The recent is what counts. And if there's an obvious division-point, it's pretty sensible to divide there.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
iamdavid said:
Now with over 15 members worldwide.

Chaired by Paul Gilham , Marc Robbins & Neil Pickup.
Me and Neil will likely be team-mates next season:
Neil Pickup said:
I'll be happy to play a couple for the Sunday/Midweek/4th XIs.. I really am that limited! :)
No fourth-XI, but if you swap it for third-XI I'm a regular in the lot.
Now I'm all for friendly internal-team banter-bashing (Neil, you just wait:cool2: 8D ) but to be a member of such a prostigious (:lol: :lol: ) international organisation is pushing it too far.
 

iamdavid

International Debutant
Richard said:
The recent is what counts. And if there's an obvious division-point, it's pretty sensible to divide there.
Very true , but I hardly consider the points you have chosen to be obvious.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Richard said:
I am the first to say that the substandardness of others doesn't detract from the substandardness of one, but I am also the first to say take averages in context.
I don't see any how those 2 theories can be bracketed together, they contradict to a great extent.
 

Neil Pickup

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Richard said:
Me and Neil will likely be team-mates next season:

No fourth-XI, but if you swap it for third-XI I'm a regular in the lot.
Now I'm all for friendly internal-team banter-bashing (Neil, you just wait:cool2: 8D ) but to be a member of such a prostigious (:lol: :lol: ) international organisation is pushing it too far.
Banter is my great strength.

Especially rhyming banter.
 

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