Michael Clarke

[Kenny]

so you dont think the fact that he (maher) scored more runs than anyone in the ING cup 2 seasons ago as the reason he went into the 1d side.
Maher is one of the best 1d batsmen Australia have and it would be stupid to play someone like Katich in his place.

Well Mark Waugh scored a lot of runs 2 seasons before he was dumped, so I don't think that's a rationale.......if maher was one of the best ODI bats Australia had, he would be playing every game. He's been given some chances, and hasn't done too much of note.
He's a Queenslander, so is Border, so is Hohns. That's why he is there.

 

[marc71178]

so it was ok for Simon Katich to make the test side on 1 good season, yet not good enough for Clarker to make it on 2 good seasons.

Averaging 70 is more than just a good season!

Clarke's first season 39 and second around 50 is nowhere near as good as that!

 

[marc71178]

Yeah but that useless git would make any other test team probably.

But would he though?

No way would he make an Indian side, and to be honest he's find it hard to get in for the Windies or England IMO.

 

[Rik]

yeh but they have a problem with earmarking players, katich, Noffke, Clarke, Watson ara few that come to mind.
Im sure this annoys the hell out of players like Brad Williams, Jimmy Maher and Mike Hussey, who have performed for ages now and dont get a look in really because of the selectors bias.

Right, Brad Williams has only started performing in the last 3 years or so, his early career was extreamly poor. I can't see what he would bring to the Australian team either, he's an older slower Brett Lee who can't bat. Jimmy Maher has not done as well as Katich. Hussey I agree with though, I don't see why they have continued to ignore him.

 

[Eclipse]

But would he though?

No way would he make an Indian side, and to be honest he's find it hard to get in for the Windies or England IMO.

I guse we will never know but with a FC record as good as he has he would be given a chance to play with England wether or not he would succsed we will never know.

I would chose him Over Butcher, Key, Hussain, or McGrath If I had the choice. Also Katich is a really good player on bad pitches so I dont think he would ever fall into that "flat track bully" catogory like say Hick has.

Lets face it if he were avalable to England they would deffinatly give him a chance you just can ignore players with FC avrages over 50. His FC record is better than every batsman in the England side.

He would easly get a chance with WI as well with only Lara having a better FC record.

 

[Simon]

Rik, Why would you say Maher's record isnt as good as others, would you prefer to have a guy to scores 750 runs every season, or a guy who scores 1200 every 3rd season and nothing in between.
And rik how much of Jimmy Maher have you seen?
And he is one of Australia's best 1 day batsmen, problem is he is an opener and we have Adam Gilchrist and Matt Hayden.

 

[Kenny]

Rik, Why would you say Maher's record isnt as good as others, would you prefer to have a guy to scores 750 runs every season, or a guy who scores 1200 every 3rd season and nothing in between.
And rik how much of Jimmy Maher have you seen?
And he is one of Australia's best 1 day batsmen, problem is he is an opener and we have Adam Gilchrist and Matt Hayden.

I'm buggered if I know how you can say he is one of our best one day bats, Bronco. His record is nothing special - 1 x 50 in 19 innings.......lucky to be still considered IMO.

http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/PLAYERS/AUS/M/MAHER_JP_02006272/

Anyhow, you'd have to be a Queenslander wouldn't you? You'd be as biased as our national selectors.......:P

 

[Simon]

how many of those 19 innings has he played batting in his usual position. hes batted in the top 3 only 8 or 9 times.
I was talking about his domestic career, average of 40 and a bit with 7 tons and 23 fifties. 4000+ runs, thats a damn good record. Particularly as an opener.
And no i am not a queenslander, I am very much a patriotic Canberran, as a lot of members here would say.

 

[marc71178]

Out of interest, who would you replace from the current West Indian line-up with Katich in a hypothetical scenario?

 

[Eclipse]

Almost anyone with the exeption of Lara, Sarwan and Gayle.

I mean how would you feel if you were Katich playing Domestic cricket for Jamaica and somone like Marlon Samuels (talented as he is) with a FC avrage of 25 and just one FC Hundred keeping you out of a spot in the test side.

 

[marc71178]

And what about Chanderpaul?

Samuels Test record is pretty good for one so young,

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

As Marc said....Chanderpaul???? He is undoubtedly a world-class player. I for one would certainly take him over Katich any day.

 

[Rik]

Rik, Why would you say Maher's record isnt as good as others, would you prefer to have a guy to scores 750 runs every season, or a guy who scores 1200 every 3rd season and nothing in between.
And rik how much of Jimmy Maher have you seen?
And he is one of Australia's best 1 day batsmen, problem is he is an opener and we have Adam Gilchrist and Matt Hayden.

I saw him when he was over playing for Glamorgan. He looked good but I think he's likely to just spend his career as a ODI batsman who's picked cause he can keep.

 

[Simon]

Maher was never picked on his keeping ability. In fact he had never kept wickets in his life before he did it for Australia last summer. I mean hes prolly done a little at training here and there, but he is the back up keeper because he was the most likely candidate after Ponting. And theres no way we would put ponting behind the stumps cause hes so good at gully or point.
And if Gilchirst gets injured i am now pretty certain Jimmy Maher will be the one to get a call up to the test side, after hewas brought into the squad for the windies tour.

 

[Eclipse]

As Marc said....Chanderpaul???? He is undoubtedly a world-class player. I for one would certainly take him over Katich any day.

Sorry I forgot about Chandas yeah you can add him to that list of players I would not replace.

 

[Andre]

Maher was never picked on his keeping ability. In fact he had never kept wickets in his life before he did it for Australia last summer. I mean hes prolly done a little at training here and there, but he is the back up keeper because he was the most likely candidate after Ponting. And theres no way we would put ponting behind the stumps cause hes so good at gully or point.
And if Gilchirst gets injured i am now pretty certain Jimmy Maher will be the one to get a call up to the test side, after hewas brought into the squad for the windies tour.

Now your being silly. Maher only ever kept because Australia did not pick Campbell for the World Cup - he is nowhere near a decent standard keeper and he would be the first to admit that.

He will never play a Test as wicket-keeper. The job would probably go to Seccombe, but definetly to a specialist.

The only reason Maher was brought over to the Caribbean as reserve keeper was because he was in the ODI squad and it would not make sence to fly someone over for just 1 game.

 

[Simon]

Seccombe? no chance, Haddin and Campbell are on the list before him. Seccombe has missed the boat as far as im concerned.
Maher was flown over during the test series and played a 3 day match as keeper. Ill admit he isnt a great keeper, probably not up to international standard. But Hes in the set up, hes getting better and from where i see it he is now Gilchirst's under study. Time may tell if this is a good move. His batting certainly gives him an advantage over Haddin or Campbell.

 

[Eclipse]

Yeah I agree Secombe has no chance now.

I really dont wont to see Maher become a test wicket keeper I just doubt he has got the experiance or competency behind the stumps.

Haddin would be my choice if he can become a more consistent batsman. He is souch a classy batsman I am sure if he toned down his expansive stroke play he would be ideal.

The mouth waters at the things Haddin can do with the bat that 124 he made in the ING cup 2 years ago was unbelevable.

 

[Kenny]

But Hes in the set up, hes getting better and from where i see it he is now Gilchirst's under study. Time may tell if this is a good move. His batting certainly gives him an advantage over Haddin or Campbell.

Ya gotta be kidding..........if Maher is Gilchrist's understudy then either you are smoking some good ****, or the selectors are..............

Campbell would be the guy they would go for, seriously.



BTW, what happened to Michael Clarke? :rolleyes:

 

[luckyeddie]

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BTW, what happened to Michael Clarke? :rolleyes:

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