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MacGill must tour India - Ganguly

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
shaka said:
Australian squad anounced for tour of India, Brett Lee in and Stuart MacGill left out, Cameron White is one of four spinner in the squad

Squad 1 Ricky Ponting (capt), 2 Adam Gilchrist (wk), 3 Michael Clarke, 4 Jason Gillespie, 5 Matthew Hayden, 6 Nathan Hauritz, 7 Simon Katich, 8 Michael Kasprowicz, 9 Damien Martyn, 10 Glenn McGrath, 11 Justin Langer, 12 Brett Lee, 13 Darren Lehmann, 14 Shane Warne, 15 Shane Watson, 16 Cameron White
This is just apalling to leave out Macgill , as this can only mean one thing - the selectors don't think he is better than Hauritz or White. His international career must be at an end if he is not picked to tour the country where tracks help spinners .


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tooextracool

International Coach
Craig said:
MacGill got left out, pulling out of Zimbabwe at this stage looks like he might as well as well have announced his retirement from international cricket at the same time.
i would have gone for 2 offies rather than 2 leggies. and as bad as macgill has been of late i would have picked him ahead of cameron white.

Craig said:
Lee has pace, and I guess the Australians would want to use it against the Indians.
and pace without direction is just about useless, we saw precisely how useful it was in the last series against india......kasparowicz must start ahead of him.
regardless gillespie isnt the slowest bowler either, he can hit the 90mph barrier quite frequently.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
I'm not surprised at Cameron White's selection above MacGill, because he's so different - although I don't subscribe to the popular opinion that MacGill sucks. But Nathan Hauritz??? Man, if a guy who went for 64 a wicket last season is the best off-spinner we've got to offer, maybe Krejza SHOULD have been given a try.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
tooextracool said:
i would have gone for 2 offies rather than 2 leggies. and as bad as macgill has been of late i would have picked him ahead of cameron white.



and pace without direction is just about useless, we saw precisely how useful it was in the last series against india......kasparowicz must start ahead of him.
regardless gillespie isnt the slowest bowler either, he can hit the 90mph barrier quite frequently.
Gillespie is very sharp - agree with the Kasprowicz thing, he should be given the chance to start
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
This only means one thing... MacGill should have shut his mouth and gone to Zimbabwe... No place for non conformists by the looks of things in the ACB, sorry Cricket Australia
 

Craig

World Traveller
At his age too, doing such decisions in most cases would have ended his international career.

It is unlikely he would have played (barring injury) in Zimbabwe IMO.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Langeveldt said:
This only means one thing... MacGill should have shut his mouth and gone to Zimbabwe... No place for non conformists by the looks of things in the ACB, sorry Cricket Australia
I wouldn't be so sure that's the reason behind it. His form against India at home might have something to do with not being selected, and the selectors looking for someone who's going to be a viable option when Warne departs. THere's not much use sticking with an inferior version of Warne when he's only going to play in unusual circumstances, you're better off bringing the next generation of cricketers through.
 

Waughney

International Debutant
Son Of Coco said:
I wouldn't be so sure that's the reason behind it. His form against India at home might have something to do with not being selected, and the selectors looking for someone who's going to be a viable option when Warne departs. THere's not much use sticking with an inferior version of Warne when he's only going to play in unusual circumstances, you're better off bringing the next generation of cricketers through.
Exactly. However, I do beleive that MacGill should've been included in the squad. If Warne does injure himself, I can't see White or Hauritz doing an adequate job. This is an important series, couldn't the Aussie selectors blood new players some other time?
 

ReallyCrazy

Banned
you know what guys.......it doesn't matter because............

Hauritz is gonna be milked
White is gonna be milked
and WARNE is gonna be milked

If McGill comes, he would be milked!
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Son Of Coco said:
Gillespie is very sharp - agree with the Kasprowicz thing, he should be given the chance to start
yes you play to your strengths and to your opponents weakness.....india have never struggled against spin, and have at times had problems against pace.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
ReallyCrazy said:
you know what guys.......it doesn't matter because............

Hauritz is gonna be milked
White is gonna be milked
and WARNE is gonna be milked

If McGill comes, he would be milked!
If that's the case then the Australian team might end up making the Indian team look like a bunch of farmers! :p
 

aussie_beater

State Vice-Captain
I think the selectors have done a fine job. Taking two leggies to India doesn't make sense...yes White is a leggie, but of the Kumble variety I hear.Anyway Australia will be better served if they pick three regular quicks and Warne and leave the job of getting breakthroughs if necessary, to the part timers.If there is a wicket where they feel the need to have two regular spinners, I would say White should get a chance because in India wickets will have some uneven bounce that can be exploited. IMO, McGill doesn't fit into the scheme of things in any shape.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
aussie_beater said:
I think the selectors have done a fine job. Taking two leggies to India doesn't make sense...yes White is a leggie, but of the Kumble variety I hear.Anyway Australia will be better served if they pick three regular quicks and Warne and leave the job of getting breakthroughs if necessary, to the part timers.If there is a wicket where they feel the need to have two regular spinners, I would say White should get a chance because in India wickets will have some uneven bounce that can be exploited. IMO, McGill doesn't fit into the scheme of things in any shape.
I agree with that view. As an Indian fan, nothing would have pleased me more than to see Macgill in the Aussie side and that pretty much shows that he should not be picked. Although, I should say, the way he bowled at MCG during the last series for the BG trophy, if he can do that more often, he would have been a handful in Indian conditions. BTW, how good is Cameroon White? How are his stats in first class cricket?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Craig said:
At his age too, doing such decisions in most cases would have ended his international career.

It is unlikely he would have played (barring injury) in Zimbabwe IMO.
I'd say he certainly wouldn't, given that he hasn't played ODIs for 4 years!
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
honestbharani said:
I agree with that view. As an Indian fan, nothing would have pleased me more than to see Macgill in the Aussie side and that pretty much shows that he should not be picked. Although, I should say, the way he bowled at MCG during the last series for the BG trophy, if he can do that more often, he would have been a handful in Indian conditions. BTW, how good is Cameroon White? How are his stats in first class cricket?
Very poor last I looked.
Some good judges I know have compared him to Kumble but somehow I don't think he's anywhere near as accurate as Kumble was early in his career.
 

aussie_beater

State Vice-Captain
Richard said:
Very poor last I looked.
Some good judges I know have compared him to Kumble but somehow I don't think he's anywhere near as accurate as Kumble was early in his career.
If he is a Kumble type bowler, he has to be accurate like Kumble too or else he will get smacked around.That's been Kumble's recipe for success because if there is uneven bounce in the wicket, he has to be able to pitch the ball on the rough which gives the maximum bite and his work is done if he can do it at will with subtle variations of pace and turn. If not he's deadmeat.
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
Richard said:
Very poor last I looked.
Some good judges I know have compared him to Kumble but somehow I don't think he's anywhere near as accurate as Kumble was early in his career.
his FC stats are not to bad (not great ether) but his OD ones do suck..

I have yet to see him play very well but he does have some brilliant performances at u19 level not just as a bowler he would bat at 4-5 and make hundreds..
 

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