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Kevin Pietersen Retires From ODIs and T20Is

AndyZaltzHair

Hall of Fame Member
Whats funny is that guys like David Lloyd, Michael Vaughan and others who were actually very vocal about MSD retiring now zipped their mouth completely as if nothing has happened. Maybe they are under the supreme oath of ECB too.
 

Viscount Tom

International Debutant
Also its the ECB who aren't letting him just lay on in T20s til the WT20 not KP not wanting to be part of it.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
He could atleast wait till this T20 WC, still it's not making sense. Only thing I can make out is it's a result of pure frustration
Yes he wants to but the ECB want him to play all the one day formats or non at all, so it looks like they've had a disagreement and KP's decided to put more time aside for his family while sticking the middle finger up at the ECB.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
If he wants a bit of downtime to spend with his family instead of playing 2 pointless ODI series then that's up to him, and I fully support his retirement from ODI cricket.

The ECB are just cutting their noses off to spite their face when it comes to T20 cricket.
 

Jacknife

International Captain
If he wants a bit of downtime to spend with his family instead of playing 2 pointless ODI series then that's up to him, and I fully support his retirement from ODI cricket.

The ECB are just cutting their noses off to spite their face when it comes to T20 cricket.
Seems that way to me.
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
But if you let KP ditch the ODIs what about the others? We know that Swann feels the same way (ie. wants just tests and T20s) and maybe players like Broad could also pick T20s only. At what point will fans not buy as many tickets for ODIs and then the ECB lose lots of $$$?
 

AndyZaltzHair

Hall of Fame Member
The article by Dobell I think, he suggested why the rules are not same for everyone in English camp. Strauss doesn't play T20 or is not being picked either way but if he could play in ODI, why not KP. Strauss didn't just officially retire but I agree with Dobell as he said "action speaks louder than words." KP knows he won't be able to play T20s if he retire from ODIs so why he took this route? He could stay away from ODI citing several reasons and play T20 WC maybe. But given he's such a rebel he would follow the harder path instead. Both parties are equally blamable for this disgrace

England news: Kevin Pietersen impasse demands ECB rethink | England Cricket Features | ESPN Cricinfo
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
The article by Dobell I think, he suggested why the rules are not same for everyone in English camp. Strauss doesn't play T20 or is not being picked either way but if he could play in ODI, why not KP. Strauss didn't just officially retire but I agree with Dobell as he said "action speaks louder than words." KP knows he won't be able to play T20s if he retire from ODIs so why he took this route? He could stay away from ODI citing several reasons and play T20 WC maybe. But given he's such a rebel he would follow the harder path instead. Both parties are equally blamable for this disgrace

England news: Kevin Pietersen impasse demands ECB rethink | England Cricket Features | ESPN Cricinfo
Strauss doesn't play ODIs or T20s, I don't think he was ever saying he would play one and not the other. He just wasn't being picked.
 

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well the difference is Strauss just wasn't picked. If he was picked for a T20I tomorrow I'd imagine he'd play. It's a bit different from KP who didn't want to play but would quite obviously continue to be picked and it's a bit of a farce if he just has to start coming up with reasons to skip ODI series.
Obviously for KP he feels stronger about not playing ODIs than he does being available for T20Is which evidently isn't the case concerning Broad and Swann otherwise they'd have done the same.
 

LegionOfBrad

International Debutant
I agree with Aggers (for about the first time ever) who said that the ECB/KP should have found a way to manufacture him not playing the ODI's this summer (say burn out) and then retire after the word t20's. Someone is being petty here imo.
 
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Jacknife

International Captain
Strauss doesn't play ODIs or T20s, I don't think he was ever saying he would play one and not the other. He just wasn't being picked.
He never came out and officially retired from T20's but I believe it was a given and was certainly intimated around the media that he would never play again.
 
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Jacknife

International Captain
I agree with Aggers (for about the first time ever) who said that the ECB/KP should have found a way to manufacture him not playing the ODI's this summer (say burn out) and then retire after the word t20's. Someone is being petty here imo.
Agree as well but it seems to me anyway that the ECB like making a bit of a example out of KP. You would have thought a compromise could have been reached, say the ECB could have said we'll give you the WI one day series off but play the Aus one and you can then go to the WT20.

It's not a if he'd have been the first England player been rested for a series Strauss & Jimmy have recently not gone on tours, didn't Colly miss a series as well after he came back fro the IPL a couple of years ago. Obviously without knowing exactly what's happened behind close doors it's hard to say what's and who's to blame, if anyone at all.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
It's not a if he'd have been the first England player been rested for a series Strauss & Jimmy have recently not gone on tours, didn't Colly miss a series as well after he came back fro the IPL a couple of years ago. Obviously without knowing exactly what's happened behind close doors it's hard to say what's and who's to blame, if anyone at all.
Tours/series missed (all from memory)

Strauss - away series (2 Tests and 3 ODIs) in Bangladesh, all ODIs since World Cup (retirement)
Cook - all ODIs prior to 2011 home series against Sri Lanka, other than away series vs Bangladesh
Trott - none
Pietersen - home ODI series vs Pakistan (dropped, not rested)
Bell - home Test and ODI series vs Pakistan (injured), away ODI series v Pakistan (dropped)
Collingwood - home series vs Bangladesh (rested)
Broad - home series vs Bangladesh (rested), 3/5th of Ashes and away ODI series vs Australia (injured)
Swann - none
Anderson - away Test and ODI series vs Bangladesh (rested), first 3 ODIs vs Australia away (rested), away ODI series vs India (rested)
Bresnan - home Test series vs Pakistan (not in team), home Test series vs Sri Lanka (injured), away Test series vs Pakistan (injured)
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
Strauss was just never selected for T20s. The only match he played under Flower was in the Caribbean in 2009 when he got thrown into the captaincy at the last minute, to the point where he had to wear Matt Prior's jersey because he didn't have one made up.

Strauss was never viewed as a T20 player, and retired from ODIs after the World Cup, hence why this isn't an issue as far as he's concerned.
 
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Viscount Tom

International Debutant
The Times said:
During talks with England last month, Pietersen’s representatives suggested that he be allowed to rest from 50-over cricket in the summer to ease his workload, although still feature in the tournament in Sri Lanka, that starts in September, effectively delaying retirement.

When England rejected that idea Pietersen, 31, opted to go through with his plan. He cited the workload of playing three formats and said that his body would not allow him to continue across all cricket through to the 2015 World Cup.

Hugh Morris, the managing director of England Cricket, described Pietersen’s timing as “disappointing less than four months before we defend our ICC World Twenty20 title”. However, Adam Wheatley, Pietersen’s manager, said: “We were very clear with the ECB that he wants to continue in Twenty20 and as far as he is concerned he has not retired. Should they change their minds or make an exception, he is available and would love to play in Sri Lanka, simple as that.

“Resting was discussed, but I can respect the decision by Andy Flower [the team director]. It would be a very difficult thing to do because it would come under more scrutiny and bring more problems. People are already talking about the question of James Anderson and Stuart Broad being rested for a Test match.”
From the Times

To me that suggests that Pietersen might have only wanted a rest from this summer's ODIs which is hardly surprising given we've got what 13? of which 5 are against Australia in that pointless ODI series.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
From the Times

To me that suggests that Pietersen might have only wanted a rest from this summer's ODIs which is hardly surprising given we've got what 13? of which 5 are against Australia in that pointless ODI series.
Yep. And Pietersen's one of the few England players who play in all formats who haven't been rested in the last couple of years.
 

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