ankitj
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Marshall took 9 fivers in a single calendar year.
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Jasprit Bumrah vs Malcolm Marshall
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capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Great but Murali took 5..... 10-fers!!!!
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
We are talking a single test scenario here.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Several of them have series as good as this one.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Almost if not all have, some even better. The problem is thinking it can be produced in whim.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
No. For example, McGrath to me doesn't have a series as good as this Bumrah one. The closest would be 99 WI but then he was a tamed by Lara.
L Trumper
State Regular
How'd you pick Bumrah in a single test, considering he never ran through a lineup in a spell like Marshall or Ambrose. His advantage over them is being consistently good in each match (unfortunately he is too injury prone play each match in a big series though).
Arachnödouche2.0
U19 Debutant
@subshakerz You said Marshall isn't regarded Top 10 cricketer by global cricket punditry? This is news to me because as long as I've been following the game, he's been tied for no. 1 fast bowler with whoever else you care to name. Is this revision a new development?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I was responding to an earlier scenario a poster gave about just one test.
I already said over a series and career Marshall is better.
L Trumper
State Regular
Yes, Marshall during his playing career was not regarded as definitive no:1, but by the end of 90s onwards he started being recognized as best of WI pacers which more or less meant world's best.
| in England | 2018-2022 | 9 | 17 | 357.0 | 86 | 972 | 37 | 5/64 | 9/110 | 26.27 | 2.72 | 57.8 | 2 | 0 |
Dont know if its against england only, but its average is 26.27 and hes only got 37 wickets, hasnt played long enough due to injuries.
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Marshall stats
| in England | 1980-1991 | 18 | 35 | 715.3 | 177 | 1758 | 94 | 7/22 | 10/92 | 18.70 | 2.45 | 45.6 | 6 | 1 |
Based off the ENG stats, Marshall is a lot better. ENG is a good judge to assess seam and swing ability. Bumrahs india/subcontintent stats are very good though, so overall its pretty close.
End of argument. not worth 54 pages, Marshall is better overall due to longevity and better in England which i use to assess the skill/ ability.
Overall, Bumrah is comfortably the 2nd best fast bowler in the history of this sport. Mcgrath - i would place him below these two, as even though more wickets, it was done with home bias.
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
There are different audiences, fans, peers and pundits.
Marshall's peer rating for his own contemporaries of mid to late 80s (Border, Wasim, etc) as the best bowler of his era is very high, though not quite as high as Lillee in the 70s and early 80s. He wasn't universally hailed in his own time but later many of the players of that time gave him his due.
However, when it comes to pundits, either cricket analysts or former cricketers not of the era, when you look at listings and rankings, Marshall as an overall cricketer is generally outside the top 10 ever, sometimes not even in the top 15 or 20.
So there is a disconnect.
I regard pundit rankings as flawed obviously though I don't totally disregard it. But I only raised this Marshall point because @kyear2 likes to bring up pundit opinion for some cricketers but doesn't mention when the same pundits don't rate cricketers like Marshall he rates as the no.3 of all-time.
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DrWolverine
International 12th Man
Just saying Bumrah has a good record vs Eng(away).
Maco is statistically the best fast bowler ever.
No other fast bowler has a complete record like him.
DrWolverine
International 12th Man
Ambrose. Donald. McGrath. Steyn. Bumrah.
This is my opinion from watching as a cricket fan and not based on their numbers or statistics.
Bumrah is a once in a lifetime talent and combines the aggressiveness of Donald/Steyn and the compactness of McGrath/Ambrose.
He has a rare gift and may one day become the best fast bowler of all time but right now let’s wait
ankitj
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
To top it off, poor record against NZ. Truly great.
DrWolverine
International 12th Man
Marshall averages 21 against NZ.
Didnt Donald struggle in australia? MCgrath not that great in subcontinent in some places(PAK)( and vs SAF in general(2nd best side).
Steyn struggled in england 31 ave. ive got bumrah comfortably ahead of those.
Ambrose very weak record vs India- 38 average.
So overall ive definitley got Bumrah 2nd. Then the guys you mentioned.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Includes his WTC Final match vs NZ, in which he went wicketless.
in England 2018-2022 9 17 357.0 86 972 37 5/64 9/110 26.27 2.72 57.8 2 0
Dont know if its against england only, but its average is 26.27 and hes only got 37 wickets, hasnt played long enough due to injuries.
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Marshall stats
in England 1980-1991 18 35 715.3 177 1758 94 7/22 10/92 18.70 2.45 45.6 6 1
Based off the ENG stats, Marshall is a lot better. ENG is a good judge to assess seam and swing ability. Bumrahs india/subcontintent stats are very good though, so overall its pretty close.
End of argument. not worth 54 pages, Marshall is better overall due to longevity and better in England which i use to assess the skill/ ability.
Overall, Bumrah is comfortably the 2nd best fast bowler in the history of this sport. Mcgrath - i would place him below these two, as even though more wickets, it was done with home bias.
DrWolverine
International 12th Man
As a viewer, I found those five the most riveting to watch.
I know he did not play much in Asia but pre injury Ambrose is the best bowler I have seen.
After watching Bumrah bowl in recent times, I question myself if this guy can better than him.