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It will be a Batter's WC!!

Rik

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
anilramavarma said:
On what are you basing the assumption that Warne could very easily be a success against India? The facts suggest otherwise....in fact just the opposite. Also, the last 2 tours against India were during his peak years on turning tracks. What makes you think there will be a different result the next time around?(Don't tell me he is a spin genius, versatile etc etc, he was all of that the last couple of times too.) It is quite likely that the Aussies might win the next series in India(they were quite close to doing that last time also), but very unlikely that India will succumb to Warne. Anything is possible in cricket, but some things are, let's just say, unlikely.
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Unlikely yes, but not impossible. The guy is the greatest leg spinner in history, you don't just write him off.
 
luckyeddie

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Rik said:
Unlikely yes, but not impossible. The guy is the greatest leg spinner in history, you don't just write him off.
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There's no doubt that he's a remarkable leg-spinner, perhaps the greatest of all time.

However, his ability to bowl Gatting round his legs has no bearing on his ability to turn the 'B' test in his favour.
 
C

Choora

State Regular
Neil Pickup said:
Two words for you all: Alain Baxter.

Oh, and IMO there's as much chance of a negative B Test as there is of Steve Harmison getting through ten overs without a wide...
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If that is the case (which we know it isn't) then Warne can already be cleared!
 
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Choora

State Regular
anilramavarma said:
On what are you basing the assumption that Warne could very easily be a success against India? The facts suggest otherwise....in fact just the opposite. Also, the last 2 tours against India were during his peak years on turning tracks. What makes you think there will be a different result the next time around?(Don't tell me he is a spin genius, versatile etc etc, he was all of that the last couple of times too.) It is quite likely that the Aussies might win the next series in India(they were quite close to doing that last time also), but very unlikely that India will succumb to Warne. Anything is possible in cricket, but some things are, let's just say, unlikely.
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That's what i told him earlier but he refused to listen.Though he has now admitted that its unlikely, before he was saying that Warne will easily do it!
 
F

full_length

U19 Vice-Captain
Re: Warne against India.
He doesnt have enough ammunition to people who can handle his prodigous turn.
If he gets his flipper going and also gets himself a googly, I'll be very interested to see how things go against India.
When Indians are playing him, you alternately get the feeling that they know him inside out, and that they dont need to.
I sometimes think that but for the capitulation of England, Pakistan, SA etc. to him he may have actually been an even greater bowler. He's a very clever, and very competitive bowler but failed to adapt and learn new tricks to combat India. It is fair to say that India will relish seeing Warne in the opposite lineup. The reason being this: Warne is Australia's best bowler along with McGrath. It helps India to get runs off him because that means some of the Aussie bowling edge is blunted.

In ODIs Warne is more good news for us. Australia dont pick a good fifth bowler. When they have beaten India, it's McGrath, Fleming/Gillespie, Lee who've done the damage. After India's last series down under, we've had a 3-3 record against Australia partly because Sachin hit McGrath out of the attack most times out of these matches. After that we have some respite (whereas Warne is a big danger for anyone else). The tough part, ofcourse, is to see off McGrath and Gillespie.


India will try the same thing tomorrow and hope it comes off. Hogg may prove to be the difference.. I think Australia should pick him. There's this attitude amongst them that India will hit spin. So they try to batter us with pace. They tried the same thing in India though everyone advised them to pick Miller (which they eventually did). On the other hand, if Hogg manages to strike on account of his variety it's a different ball game altogether. I dont know whether it's just hype but people are saying Hogg is very good indeed. From India's point of view.. we will hope Saurav or Sehwag survive to face the leftie before Yuvaraj gets a chance.


Great game ahead. May the best team win 8D :ch: 8D
 
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Eclipse

Eclipse

International Debutant
Hogg's biggest wepond of late has been his wrong-un witch no one seems to be picking.

He spins his wrong-un quite alot so if you dont pick it then your in trouble.
 
F

full_length

U19 Vice-Captain
That variation could be crucial, if circumstances favour Hogg.

It can prevent Indians from going down the pitch if he gets it right.


That pitch is said to be helpfull to spinners. But hell, they havent been great at reading pitches lately have they :rolleyes:
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Rik said:
It's still yet to take place from what I have heard.

Either that or it takes a hell of a long time to analise one sample...
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The A and B sample are taken at the same time - but the B has yet to be analysed.
 
marc71178

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Going back to the topic of the thread - It's bizarre that probably the strongest batting line up in the World Cup has failed twice, but other lesser lights are doing well!
 
Bazza

Bazza

International 12th Man
Yes who was the guy claiming he was in the same league as Gilchrist and Jayasuriya and he had the potential to get a 200 didn't he?
 
Neil Pickup

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I don't hold out much hope for him against the quality attacks now.

This is reminding me of Keith Arthurton in 1996 :)
 
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Anil

Hall of Fame Member
Rik said:
Unlikely yes, but not impossible. The guy is the greatest leg spinner in history, you don't just write him off.
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Oh, now, you admit it's unlikely when earlier you were saying he could "very easily" do it. I never said it's impossible and I am not writing him off, stranger things have happened in cricket but I repeat, the greatest leg spinner theory won't wash because he was the greatest leg spinner on the previous tours also, he was on a roll, his team was on a roll, he was playing on spinning tracks, the Indian spinners were successful in the same tours.....(before you come up with the exact same statement again, explain the above, ok?)
 
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