Is Collingwood good enough to be a regular Test batsman?

[steds]

The idea was to keep KP and Flintoff seperate. Surely Shaw can stay in until after KP's out.

 

[chaminda_00]

The idea was to keep KP and Flintoff seperate. Surely Shaw can stay in until after KP's out.

Well considering Giles and Loundon are better bats, then your better off putting one of them in between the sloggers.

 

[steds]

Shaw's the captain. He can do what he wants

 

[superkingdave]

why do you need Louden when you have Marshall(FC Ave 36.64)?

 

[Barney Rubble]

why do you need Louden when you have Marshall(FC Ave 36.64)?

[Duncan Fletcher mode]Loudon has a doosra, obviously he's brilliant[/Duncan Fletcher mode]

 

[chaminda_00]

why do you need Louden when you have Marshall(FC Ave 36.64)?

Yeah SImon Marshall is something special especially with the bowling ave of 72. Well he plays for Lancashire so he must be something special.

 

[superkingdave]

Yeah SImon Marshall is something special especially with the bowling ave of 72. Well he plays for Lancashire so he must be something special.

Thats the spirit

 

[Matteh]

Hasn't Collingwood proven today that he's at least capable of making starts in Test cricket....add this (and hopefully more tomorrow to remove some doubt) to the other good knock he's had and we have someone starting to pull their weight at Test level....
Remember that it took Flintoff years to come good....

 

[chaminda_00]

I think the biggest problem with Collingwood is that his not good enough to bat at 4 in Test Cricket, 6 or 7 he would be ok.

 

[Scaly piscine]

I think the biggest problem with Collingwood is that his not good enough to bat at 4 in Test Cricket, 6 or 7 he would be ok.

Nobody knows whether he is good enough yet. He had an awful start to ODI cricket, he's had 5 Tests which have been dotted around where he's ended up batting for draws in 4 of them. To make a judgement from such a 'run' of games is pure guesswork.

 

[Slow Love™]

No.

Very capable ODI player though, and I'm a fan.

I may have been wrong.

 

[BoyBrumby]

I like Colly a lot as a player, superb fielder, decent little dobbers in the shorter version, but I don't think he has sufficient ability to make a test batter. I haven't seen his dismissal yet ("highlights" on SS shortly I think) but it sounds a smeller.

He works & grafts, but when you look at the scoreboard all he's done is survive. Now the pitch of the 5th day may've altered dramatically, but The Oval for the fifth was an absolute road. Test batters need to do more than chip in with gutsy tens.

Hoping & praying Vaughany's fit for Sat.

Following SL's lead...

Think I was spot on there, particularly the "when you look at the scoreboard all he's done is survive" bit. The first double ton from a Pom in Oz since Wally Hammond later...

 

[Chubb]

I don't think anyone had yet claimed to dislike Collingwood or not rated him as an ODI player, and quite right too, but everyone has said he can't cut it at test level, and I agree. Alastair Cook must play if Vaughan isn't fit. He has faced Danish a lot in the nets at Chelmsford, annihilated MacGill during his 214 and is an allround class act, surely he must follow Trescothick as opener when he retires.

I was wrong. He's proved us all wrong. But i was right about Ali Cook and I stand by that.

 

[Nishant]

i never thought that he was amzin, but i did think that england needed him and he deserved to be playing Test cricket. However, one or 2 innings doesn't really prove much! I mean Sehwag also scored 309 against Pakistan and 200 odd against the aussies.....but he definitely not a GOOD player, if u know what i mean.

 

[tooextracool]

for those that claimed that Collingwood wasnt good enough to cut it in test cricket, i seem to remember Geoffrey Boycott doing the same several times, so at least you're amongst respected company.

 

[Slow Love™]

i never thought that he was amzin, but i did think that england needed him and he deserved to be playing Test cricket. However, one or 2 innings doesn't really prove much! I mean Sehwag also scored 309 against Pakistan and 200 odd against the aussies.....but he definitely not a GOOD player, if u know what i mean.

Yeah, but the question was "is Collingwood good enough to be a regular test batsman?". It's not like we're evaluating him as a great of the game, but a test average of 42 or so (prior to this test) coupled with his performances this series I think definitely makes the case that he has what it takes to play regular test cricket.

Also, though he can be frustrating, I'd definitely call Sehwag a "GOOD" player.

 

[silentstriker]

Sehwag is undoubtedly [place holder until tomorrow] player.

 

[Tomm NCCC]

I have stood by Collingwood and could never see why people doubted him (Expecting someone to fing a post where i slag him off relentlesly) and today I think he shut everyone up

Is he the first Englishmen to score a double hundred since 2002?

 

[tooextracool]

I have stood by Collingwood and could never see why people doubted him (Expecting someone to fing a post where i slag him off relentlesly) and today I think he shut everyone up

Is he the first Englishmen to score a double hundred since 2002?

who scored a double hundred in 2002?
Hes the first since Rob Key in 2004 and Marcus Trescothick a year before that. And then i think it was Nass all the way in 97.

 

[superkingdave]

who scored a double hundred in 2002?
Hes the first since Rob Key in 2004 and Marcus Trescothick a year before that. And then i think it was Nass all the way in 97.

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