Indian Cricket ... what next?

[Sanz]

http://www.cricket.net/db/ARCHIVE/2004-05/IND_IN_BDESH/SCORECARDS/IND_BDESH_ODI2_26DEC2004.html

India Vs. Bangladesh 2nd ODI

 

[Pratters]

The regulars :-

Sehwag - O
Ganguly - 22
Yuvraj - 4
Kaif - 49
Zaheer - 53/2 (mediocre considering it was versus Bangladesh)

No solid performance from any of the 5 seniors.

New comers :

Sriram - 57, 37/1
Joginder Sharma - 51/0 (poor)
Kartik - 43/2 (good)
Agarkar - 31/2
Dhoni - 12
D.Mongia - 12

Not unimpressive there some new comers/no regulars.

Solidifies my point not to make too many chnages at once too. Try 2-3 players.

For that specific loss, I dont see how the new comers could be blamed though.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

The regulars :-

Sehwag - O
Ganguly - 22
Yuvraj - 4
Kaif - 49
Zaheer - 53/2 (mediocre considering it was versus Bangladesh)

No solid performance from any of the 5 seniors.

Is 49 (Kaif) considered not to be soild these days? He was only 8 runs off the topscore.

 

[Pratters]

Is 49 (Kaif) considered not to be soild these days? He was only 8 runs off the topscore.

Certainly more was expected of a senior member of the side playing an inning when most of the other important players had been out by then.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Certainly more was expected of a senior member of the side playing an inning when most of the other important players had been out by then.

And yet he still did better than all the other senior players as well as all but one of the juniors.

 

[Pratters]

And yet he still did better than all the other senior players as well as all but one of the juniors.

It was an average performance now Liam. Not a solid one. Certainly not in the situation he was batting in.

 

[honestbharani]

I think the criteria that SJS laid out was the best one to follow while picking a side..... And going by that, I have come up with the following team:


Sachin
Sehwag
Kaif
Dravid
Yuvraj
Badani
Dhoni (wk)
Agarkar
Pathan/Balaji
Harbhajan
Zaheer


I honestly don't think this side would be bad.... And if neither Pathan and Balaji develop the variety that is so indispensible in ODIs, they can be swapped for another new seamer who has the variety.

 

[nehrafan]

I would go for,


Sehwag
Yuvraj
Dravid(c)
Tendulkar
Kaif
Powar
Dhoni
Mishra
Balaji
Khan
Nehra.

-- Kumble
-- Gambhir
-- Pathan
-- Badani

 

[Arjun]

Joginder Sharma - 51/0 (poor)
Kartik - 43/2 (good)
Agarkar - 31/2
Dhoni - 12

• Sharma batted intelligently, and almost won that match- but for early dismissals of the top six.
• Karthik bowled negative, overstepped too often, and bowled several six-balls.
• Agarkar bowled utter rubbish after the 200th wicket, and his irresponsible shot left the side in deep trouble. It is shocking to see him get a recall so often.
• Dhoni struggles against the old ball.

And Badani? What's the reason? More TN players in the side? He gets set, a score of 30+, and throws his wicket away. When wickets start falling, he starts blocking, and refuses several regulation singles. This is why the Indians have never won a one-day tournament in which he has figured. Whatever he can do, Yuvraj can do better, if he's more focussed. The Pied Piper of Punjab is temperamental, but is more effective than Badani any day.

 

[Pratters]

• Sharma batted intelligently, and almost won that match- but for early dismissals of the top six.
• Karthik bowled negative, overstepped too often, and bowled several six-balls.
• Agarkar bowled utter rubbish after the 200th wicket, and his irresponsible shot left the side in deep trouble. It is shocking to see him get a recall so often.
• Dhoni struggles against the old ball.

And Badani? What's the reason? More TN players in the side? He gets set, a score of 30+, and throws his wicket away. When wickets start falling, he starts blocking, and refuses several regulation singles. This is why the Indians have never won a one-day tournament in which he has figured. Whatever he can do, Yuvraj can do better, if he's more focussed. The Pied Piper of Punjab is temperamental, but is more effective than Badani any day.

The regulars didnt exactly show they were more mature than the side shows in THAT particular match though.

 

[SJS]

I think the criteria that SJS laid out was the best one to follow while picking a side..... And going by that, I have come up with the following team:


Sachin
Sehwag
Kaif
Dravid
Yuvraj
Badani
Dhoni (wk)
Agarkar
Pathan/Balaji
Harbhajan
Zaheer


I honestly don't think this side would be bad.... And if neither Pathan and Balaji develop the variety that is so indispensible in ODIs, they can be swapped for another new seamer who has the variety.

Thats not bad. I would do minor tinkering to that.

1. Send Dravid before Kaif.
2. Have Mongi as standby alingside Badani
3. I think the team is one bowler short. I would take someone like JP Yadav to replace one of the batsmen at 4,5,6.
4. I would look for other bowling options too. For example Murali Karthik.

 

[Arjun]

The regulars didnt exactly show they were more mature than the side shows in THAT particular match though.

Mongia, Karthik and Agarkar are regulars in comparison with three others in that side.

 

[vvk]

MONGIA needs to be shot and put to dead. This guy has been a pathetic failure every time he's been called upon.

 

[Arjun]

MONGIA needs to be shot and put to dead. This guy has been a pathetic failure every time he's been called upon.

WATCH IT!!!!!

By the way, with so much talk about the Indian cricket team, why doesn't anyone talk Indian domestic cricket? That thread is practically a one-man show, compared to those about Aussie, English and Kiwi domestic cricket.

 

[Deja moo]

And Badani? What's the reason? More TN players in the side? He gets set, a score of 30+, and throws his wicket away. When wickets start falling, he starts blocking, and refuses several regulation singles. This is why the Indians have never won a one-day tournament in which he has figured. Whatever he can do, Yuvraj can do better, if he's more focussed. The Pied Piper of Punjab is temperamental, but is more effective than Badani any day.

Why not Badani ? Why do you want Powar ? More Mumbai players in the side ?

You say Badani blocks singles when wickets fall, so does Yuvraj. India might never have won a tournament with Badani in the side. And how many have they won with Yuvraj in the side ? one ? And if you think Yuvraj can do things better than Badani, I guess hes been just warming up for the last 100 games, eh ? Theres a limit to ones patience. There was a period after Yuvrajs second coming into the side when he notched up useful half centuries regularly. Now hes almost turned full circle and is asking to be dropped again.

 

[SJS]

Why not Badani ? Why do you want Powar ? More Mumbai players in the side ?

You say Badani blocks singles when wickets fall, so does Yuvraj. India might never have won a tournament with Badani in the side. And how many have they won with Yuvraj in the side ? one ? And if you think Yuvraj can do things better than Badani, I guess hes been just warming up for the last 100 games, eh ? Theres a limit to ones patience. There was a period after Yuvrajs second coming into the side when he notched up useful half centuries regularly. Now hes almost turned full circle and is asking to be dropped again.

Come on DM.

You cant get upset with India's biggest supporter of fresh new talent ever !!

If he could have his way, India would play with

Yuvraj
Dhoni
Sriram
Venugopal
JP Yadav
Sodhi
Raina
Powar
SS Paul
Joginder Sharma
Gurkripal Singh Bajwa

Now you cant raise Ganguly on a pedestal for pushing the claims of 4-5 youngsters whom others knew about anyway and denounce someone who discovers new talent in India by the dozens every day.

Not fair DM

 

[Pratters]

Why not Badani ? Why do you want Powar ? More Mumbai players in the side ?

You say Badani blocks singles when wickets fall, so does Yuvraj. India might never have won a tournament with Badani in the side. And how many have they won with Yuvraj in the side ? one ? And if you think Yuvraj can do things better than Badani, I guess hes been just warming up for the last 100 games, eh ? Theres a limit to ones patience. There was a period after Yuvrajs second coming into the side when he notched up useful half centuries regularly. Now hes almost turned full circle and is asking to be dropped again.

One reason to chose Badani - cricketer with ***iest wife in the country

More Badani = more airspace of Mrs. Badani on television.

 

[Deja moo]

One reason to chose Badani - cricketer with ***iest wife in the country

More Badani = more airspace of Mrs. Badani on television.

Vajpayee has a ***y wife ?

 

[SJS]

Vajpayee has a ***y wife ?

Vajpayee has a wife ???

 

[Deja moo]

Vajpayee has a wife ???

I meant Badani resembles Vajpayee with the chin structure..