Imran Khan vs Wasim Akram

[kyear2]

I find it hard to classify him in the same era as the other two. Since his peak was before them and he was 5+ years older than both.

Exactly.

 

[Coronis]

Don't think it can purely be based on that.

Too many of Rafa's titles were on one niche surface for me to rank him above Fed.

I mean actually, Grass is the niche surface. If Grass was played on as much as the other two we’d have a whole different dynamic between the 3. (considering it was Fed’s best surface, whereas Nadal and Djokovic’s best surfaces were the popular ones)

 

[DrWolverine]

Too many of Rafa's titles were on one niche surface for me to rank him above Fed.

Fed & Novak had it easier then.
Only 1 GS took place on clay and Nadal still won 22

 

[DrWolverine]

I find it hard to classify him in the same era as the other two. Since his peak was before them and he was 5+ years older than both.

Almost the same era.
Especially Nadal.
Fed won his first Slam in 2003. Nadal in 2005.

 

[kyear2]

Almost the same era.
Especially Nadal.
Fed won his first Slam in 2003. Nadal in 2005.

But for a little while he was only fully competitive on clay.

 

[kyear2]

Fed & Novak had it easier then.
Only 1 GS took place on clay and Nadal still won 22

The most prestigious is the one on grass and the one in NY.

 

[Cricket Bliss]

Did he though?

His era can be argued to have started a bit before the other two.

But beyond that I still rate Fed over Rafa considering how many of Nadal's slams came on clay.

That is dominance in a particular surface, which Federer or Djokovic didn't do to Nadal's extent. It is not like minnow bashing.

 

[DrWolverine]

Fed won all Slams once
Nadal won all Slams twice
Novak won all Slams thrice

 

[DrWolverine]

The most prestigious is the one on grass and the one in NY.

This was true in 1980s and even in early 1990s.
Not anymore

 

[Cricket Bliss]

Topic is getting heavily deviated

 

[kyear2]

That is dominance in a particular surface, which Federer or Djokovic didn't do to Nadal's extent. It is not like minnow bashing.

Pretty sure Djoker has a healthy haul of Aussie opens.

 

[DrWolverine]

That is dominance in a particular surface, which Federer or Djokovic didn't do to Nadal's extent. It is not like minnow bashing.

Most wins at one Slam
AO : Novak
FO : Nadal
Wim : Federer

Federer has most wins at US Open as well.
Nadal has second most wins at US Open
Novak has second most wins at Wim & US Open

 

[kyear2]

This was true in 1980s and even in early 1990s.
Not anymore

Really?

Toy think Australia has the same prestige as Flushing Meadows and the All England club in SW London?

 

[kyear2]

Topic is getting heavily deviated

A tad.

 

[Coronis]

Topic is getting heavily deviated

dw, happens all the time. at some point it circles back.

Most wins at one Slam
AO : Novak
FO : Nadal
Wim : Federer

Federer has most wins at US Open as well.
Nadal has second most wins at US Open
Novak has second most wins at Wim & US Open

This always surprised me considering Novak’s dominance in Aus. Djoker you choker.

 

[DrWolverine]

Really?

Toy think Australia has the same prestige as Flushing Meadows and the All England club in SW London?

The top players refused to tour Australian Open because of the travel and that was the reason for less prestige and this changed in 1990s.

 

[Coronis]

This was true in 1980s and even in early 1990s.
Not anymore

Nah Wimbeldon is definitely still the most prestigious. I doubt that will ever change.

 

[kyear2]

dw, happens all the time. at some point it circles back.


This always surprised me considering Novak’s dominance in Aus. Djoker you choker.

Think Djoker was always just fitter and more ready at the start of the year?

Can't think of any other reason for his total dominance down under.

Being quicker than NY should have helped Fed more than him.

 

[kyear2]

The top players refused to tour Australian Open because of the travel and that was the reason for less prestige and this changed in 1990s.

It isn't shunned, but it's still not on par with the other two.

Not sure where it ranks with Roland Garros.

 

[DrWolverine]

This always surprised me considering Novak’s dominance in Aus. Djoker you choker.

As Novak fan, my favourite wins post his comeback
1. Wim 2019 : So much drama
2. AO 2023 : One year after his deportation
3. Olympic Gold : The missing link
4. FO 2023 : Third Calendar Slam
5. USO 2023 : Tied Nadal’s 4 USO