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ICC Champions Trophy in Sri Lanka
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Neil Pickup
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Unlucky Zimbabwe, great effort by Andy Flower (highest ODI score by a Zimbabwean).
Can't help but think that if they come up against a team that can keep up the pressure properly, India's batting will, erm, do a Pakistan...
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Still could be one of all three from this group. England edging India and losing heavily to Zimbabwe - it's not that unlikely...
Anyway, looks like it's the Championship Decider tomorrow
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Can't help but think that if they come up against a team that can keep up the pressure properly, India's batting will, erm, do a Pakistan...
.Still could be one of all three from this group. England edging India and losing heavily to Zimbabwe - it's not that unlikely...
Anyway, looks like it's the Championship Decider tomorrow
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aussie_beater
State Vice-Captain
Ah well, the "best batting line-up in the world" ended up scoring a not so bad 288 and eventually winning the match....thanks to Kaif again.That's the good thing about this lineup....you have a number seven who can rescue the innings in style.
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
But yet again the problem with having 7 batsmen reared it's ugly head - the "5th bowler" ALMOST lost it for India, conceding far too many runs again.
They will come a cropper one of these days through playing the 7th batsmen.
Personally I'd take a serious look at Bangar to come in at 7.
They will come a cropper one of these days through playing the 7th batsmen.
Personally I'd take a serious look at Bangar to come in at 7.
aussie_beater
State Vice-Captain
Andy Flower relishes Indian bowling.He has done so well against India all through his career.
Its very difficult to keep the same kind of pressure as the initial 10-15 overs, in the middle overs.Its a given.IMO, the only team that can do a good job at keeping things under control in the middle overs is Australia because of their deeper bowling resources.Can't help but think that if they come up against a team that can keep up the pressure properly, India's batting will, erm, do a Pakistan...
jaspalsinghrana
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[Still could be one of all three from this group. England edging India and losing heavily to Zimbabwe - it's not that unlikely...
LOL! England isnt gonna beat India, India gonna blast them and send them back to home.England should better get used to it coz it will be a same story in the World cup
LOL! England isnt gonna beat India, India gonna blast them and send them back to home.England should better get used to it coz it will be a same story in the World cup
a nice informed arguement there backed up with statistical evidence[Still could be one of all three from this group. England edging India and losing heavily to Zimbabwe - it's not that unlikely...
LOL! England isnt gonna beat India, India gonna blast them and send them back to home.England should better get used to it coz it will be a same story in the World cup
Neil Pickup
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TendulkarMark2
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There is a big IF with it!
Sorry son,Stop day dreaming, England will lose to India and will go back empty Handed
Sorry son,Stop day dreaming, England will lose to India and will go back empty Handed
age_master
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Australia 129/1 (18.4 ov)
look in very very good touch
look in very very good touch
age_master
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HA HA HA NZ in big trouble at 6/51 chsing 297 - Harris the only hope on 1 (5)
hi y'all - i'm back again!!!
I see we still have some elements of the terrace crowd still contributing their own version of the truth behind Darwin's Theory of Evolution, so i thought i'd spice things up for them!!!
my views on the tourney so far....
Game 1
Pakistan
! - continue their recent crap form. I know I picked them to do well but that was b4 the debacle in Kenya. They would appear to have some major problems (and not just poor player form), which if they do not get sorted soon they can forget about the WC. I see Wasim has announced his intention to retire after the WC & Saeed Anwar is also talking of going - could be they have other things on their minds than what is going on out in the middle.
Sri Lanka :I - hard to judge anything considering the lack of performance from the opposition, but good to see Aravinda & Jayasuriya together again wrecking their own brand of havoc. They will be sorely missed when they eventually retire.
Game 2
S Africa :P - the game they should have won easily - they should never have allowed it to get as close as it did & should have cruised to victory. They need to improve their batting at the top if they want to win in the semi.
W Indies :O - allowed to flatter to deceive by inept S African batting at the top of the innings. Both teams showed the danger of slow run rates near the top of an innings (Chanderpaul & Dippenaar)& the resulting pressure placed at the end of the innings.
Game 3
India :rolleyes: - the greatest escape so far - the terrace crowd can crow all they like anout this "victory" - it was still a crap performance saved by a couple of batsmen. The excuse the team are rusty is just shite as India, England, Australia, Pakistan & Kenya have all just come off International Series whereas the rest of the teams have been out of action for some time. The Indian bowlers showed nothing to worry the better batting sides as the nearly contrived to fail to defend 288!!!
Zimbabwe - brilliant performance in extreme adversity in falling just over a dozen runs short - hats off to Flower for a great knock - Kaif was good but Flower was streets better. Flower had a nightmare behind the sticks - 2 missed stumpings & at least 1 run out let go, and Streak defended after Hondo finished his first spell when he should have attacked. India should never have got much past 200 after being 5/87, and against better opposition they would not have been allowed to do so. I recall that they have been the longest team away from the game, and that 5 of their squad are facing eviction from their homes when the return home. Not the ideal atmosphere to try and play cricket & represent your country when they are going to do that to you - hence my view that their performance earns my vote for the tourneyment so far!!!
Game 4 (still in 'progress' lol - NZ 9/90 odd)
Australia 8D - awesome - must now be red hot favorites based upon the games so far!! yet another example of their not taking their foot off the opposition's throat when they have the upper hand (more like crushing it actually). They had a bit of luck today with 2 dropped catches early on, edges going just wide of fielders & Vincent out first ball t the 7th legitimate ball of the over- but you make your own luck & good sides take advantage when it comes along.
NZ
- i did not like their selection with Vincent 'keeping & Nevin dropped - a batsman short & exposed the middle order all rounders far too early. I know that Styris now considers himself to be a batsman that sometimes bowls, but when he takes NZ best ODI bowling figures in his last ODI v W Indies then he is still an all rounder in my book, & why he didn't get to roll the arm over beats me!!! Our line up only had 4 recognised batsmen & we lost 3 of those in the first 5 overs!!!! with 4 frontline bowlers and 3 bowling all rounders (none of them have much so far as their international batting averages go), we have the opposite selection of the Indians & it got what it deserved - not that it means anything as neither will win the trophey with those selections unless something very strange happens along the way (as happened in the Kenyan Final Aust V Pak). Just a quick acknowledgement of Vettori's performance with the ball - 1/25 of 10 - brilliant figures esp when you think of the situation when he was brought on - shows why he is regarded by those in the know as the premier left arm spinner in the game & one of the best slow bowlers going - when you think he is only 23 then he will surely go on to be one of the very best left arm spinners. Just to spice it up I consider him to be a more competitive performer away from home than either Kumble or Harbijhan!!!!!
regards to all
I see we still have some elements of the terrace crowd still contributing their own version of the truth behind Darwin's Theory of Evolution, so i thought i'd spice things up for them!!!
my views on the tourney so far....
Game 1
Pakistan
! - continue their recent crap form. I know I picked them to do well but that was b4 the debacle in Kenya. They would appear to have some major problems (and not just poor player form), which if they do not get sorted soon they can forget about the WC. I see Wasim has announced his intention to retire after the WC & Saeed Anwar is also talking of going - could be they have other things on their minds than what is going on out in the middle.Sri Lanka :I - hard to judge anything considering the lack of performance from the opposition, but good to see Aravinda & Jayasuriya together again wrecking their own brand of havoc. They will be sorely missed when they eventually retire.
Game 2
S Africa :P - the game they should have won easily - they should never have allowed it to get as close as it did & should have cruised to victory. They need to improve their batting at the top if they want to win in the semi.
W Indies :O - allowed to flatter to deceive by inept S African batting at the top of the innings. Both teams showed the danger of slow run rates near the top of an innings (Chanderpaul & Dippenaar)& the resulting pressure placed at the end of the innings.
Game 3
India :rolleyes: - the greatest escape so far - the terrace crowd can crow all they like anout this "victory" - it was still a crap performance saved by a couple of batsmen. The excuse the team are rusty is just shite as India, England, Australia, Pakistan & Kenya have all just come off International Series whereas the rest of the teams have been out of action for some time. The Indian bowlers showed nothing to worry the better batting sides as the nearly contrived to fail to defend 288!!!
Zimbabwe
- brilliant performance in extreme adversity in falling just over a dozen runs short - hats off to Flower for a great knock - Kaif was good but Flower was streets better. Flower had a nightmare behind the sticks - 2 missed stumpings & at least 1 run out let go, and Streak defended after Hondo finished his first spell when he should have attacked. India should never have got much past 200 after being 5/87, and against better opposition they would not have been allowed to do so. I recall that they have been the longest team away from the game, and that 5 of their squad are facing eviction from their homes when the return home. Not the ideal atmosphere to try and play cricket & represent your country when they are going to do that to you - hence my view that their performance earns my vote for the tourneyment so far!!!Game 4 (still in 'progress' lol - NZ 9/90 odd)
Australia 8D - awesome - must now be red hot favorites based upon the games so far!! yet another example of their not taking their foot off the opposition's throat when they have the upper hand (more like crushing it actually). They had a bit of luck today with 2 dropped catches early on, edges going just wide of fielders & Vincent out first ball t the 7th legitimate ball of the over- but you make your own luck & good sides take advantage when it comes along.
NZ
- i did not like their selection with Vincent 'keeping & Nevin dropped - a batsman short & exposed the middle order all rounders far too early. I know that Styris now considers himself to be a batsman that sometimes bowls, but when he takes NZ best ODI bowling figures in his last ODI v W Indies then he is still an all rounder in my book, & why he didn't get to roll the arm over beats me!!! Our line up only had 4 recognised batsmen & we lost 3 of those in the first 5 overs!!!! with 4 frontline bowlers and 3 bowling all rounders (none of them have much so far as their international batting averages go), we have the opposite selection of the Indians & it got what it deserved - not that it means anything as neither will win the trophey with those selections unless something very strange happens along the way (as happened in the Kenyan Final Aust V Pak). Just a quick acknowledgement of Vettori's performance with the ball - 1/25 of 10 - brilliant figures esp when you think of the situation when he was brought on - shows why he is regarded by those in the know as the premier left arm spinner in the game & one of the best slow bowlers going - when you think he is only 23 then he will surely go on to be one of the very best left arm spinners. Just to spice it up I consider him to be a more competitive performer away from home than either Kumble or Harbijhan!!!!!regards to all
Gotchya
State Vice-Captain
sadly yeah...and welcome back.
Well yes thats my take of the issue.
Well not quite, i would give em the credit for the win, since the bowlers in the first match were trying out everything. They lifted the Morocco cup last month as well, and look like an efficient unit at the mooment.
I agree with the rest of ur post though
warrioryohannan
U19 Cricketer
Ozoz gonna lift this cup, India and SA can give them some tuff time BUT India's bowlers can't restrict the Ozoz batters while Proteas chokes whenever they play against ozoz.
"Pakistan ! - continue their recent crap form. I know I picked them to do well but that was b4 the debacle in Kenya. They would appear to have some major problems (and not just poor player form), which if they do not get sorted soon they can forget about the WC"
Yup, Pak can now forget about the WC.The bad news is that Inzi is going to have a surgery after which he won't be available for the WC.Without Inzi Pak have a minimal chance of doing well.
[Edited on 9/15/02 by yorker]
! - continue their recent crap form. I know I picked them to do well but that was b4 the debacle in Kenya. They would appear to have some major problems (and not just poor player form), which if they do not get sorted soon they can forget about the WC"Yup, Pak can now forget about the WC.The bad news is that Inzi is going to have a surgery after which he won't be available for the WC
.Without Inzi Pak have a minimal chance of doing well.[Edited on 9/15/02 by yorker]
Gotchya
State Vice-Captain
Uh..huh.. Thats very very very disturbing !
Without inzi....guyz i dont think the operation is going to cost him the World Cup surely he'll heal earlier.
Maybe something good will come out of it, as you say maybe Misbah will make it through as a good performer for Pakistan.
Either way the batting line up will look fragile without him literally
!Without inzi....guyz i dont think the operation is going to cost him the World Cup surely he'll heal earlier.
Maybe something good will come out of it, as you say maybe Misbah will make it through as a good performer for Pakistan.
Either way the batting line up will look fragile without him literally