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How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

subshakerz

International Coach
Harper was no worse than what NZ has.

These lottery pitches are a toss up tbh, not to add ridiculous.
That's why I think folks are misreading this NZ series victory. You had already had India repeatedly lose on lottery pitches so this lost isn't that surprising. The only exception in this series was that overcast 1st morning, otherwise India bossed the rest of that 1st test.
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
Now, now. I am equal opportunity. After Pakistan lost to Bangladesh, I posted the below:


The reason I bumped this thread was the humble pie for those posters who wanted to suggest WI and Aus would be thrashed.
There really is no such pie my dear. And you really are comparing it with a post beginning Bangladesh winning in Pakistan with "though it was a weakened Pakistan team"???
 

capt_Luffy

International Captain
This version of the Indian team is akin to WI in 1995-96. A pale shadow of what it once was in the decade prior.
The only difference is the same apply to most teams around now. Australia, England, New Zealand, South Africa all are in a transition period and no one is particularly very strong.
 

subshakerz

International Coach
This version of the Indian team is akin to WI in 1995-96. A pale shadow of what it once was in the decade prior.
Not really bowling wise. Bumrah is in his prime. Ashwin and Jadeja were still going strong until this series.

Batting-wise, somewhat. But India were losing on lottery pitches even then.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I neither have to courage nor the patience after the end of a magnificent 12 year run of utter home dominance to engage in this **** show currently. The first ****ing thing he posts after team India losses a series is a post how Australia and WI would had won in India. It's beyond pathetic when they are getting whitewashed by Bangladesh. But well, I guess winning a home series in 4 years does things to a man.
He can choose to see the positive side of Pakistan coming back up as a test match side, the emergence of Shakeel, Jamal, Salman and the continuity they finally have with Shan as captain. I am not convinced by the rest of their players but at least they now have a formula to win the home tests and with their pace attack, they will always be competitive away. They have a very real chance to be a force in the 2027 WTC but no, he gotta diss and cuss, sorry discuss, an amazing Indian side and an ATG record coz...........
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Found this really interesting. COF is how much the ball turned. Difference between the batting this game was NZ playing the balls that didn't spin that much better. Could have something to do with santner, he got inconsistent variable bounce I don't think any spinners on either side managed to replicate.
He varies his release points a lot and also has all those different grips. Guess doing the journey as a T20 bowler across franchises does prepare you for eventualities such as this.
 

subshakerz

International Coach
There really is no such pie my dear. And you really are comparing it with a post beginning Bangladesh winning in Pakistan with "though it was a weakened Pakistan team"???
Weakened as in it's not like this Pak team is comparable to Pak teams of old given recent form, my friend. But I was trying to praise the Bangladesh victory.
 

subshakerz

International Coach
He can choose to see the positive side of Pakistan coming back up as a test match side, the emergence of Shakeel, Jamal, Salman and the continuity they finally have with Shan as captain. I am not convinced by the rest of their players but at least they now have a formula to win the home tests and with their pace attack, they will always be competitive away. They have a very real chance to be a force in the 2027 WTC but no, he gotta diss and cuss, sorry discuss, an amazing Indian side and an ATG record coz...........
I'm not sure why you never believed me, but I told you I lost most interest in Pak cricket long ago since they adopted this defensive brand of cricket that I can't get behind.
 

subshakerz

International Coach
They are probably losing. But a close series, 2-1 to India I think.
Aus lost that series in 2001 by virtue of having the greatest innings, greatest partnership and spin greatest bowling match performance in the same test against them. It was a freak loss that changed that series towards India.

Then with prep they came in 2004/5 and won fairly comfortably.

Against Kohlis team, they will face a stiffer challenge but will win 2-1 too.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
"fairly comfortably" literally one ATG tailender nightwatchman partnership and a day of rain away from a draw. And got bowled out for 93 chasing 107. But sure.... :laugh:
 

subshakerz

International Coach
"fairly comfortably" literally one ATG tailender nightwatchman partnership and a day of rain away from a draw. And got bowled out for 93 chasing 107. But sure.... :laugh:
Yeah their two wins were comfortable. And the second test was 50/50 we will never know how the final day would have gone.

As for the last test, that was just rank pitch doctoring in a dead rubber game otherwise they were worried of losing 3-0.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
:laugh:

India just made 250 batting at Mumbai before Aus were bowled out for sub-100, but sure, pitch doctoring. 8-) :laugh:

And yeah, chennai test was 50-50 that is why McGrath was smashed all through the test. :laugh:
 

subshakerz

International Coach
:laugh:

India just made 250 batting at Mumbai before Aus were bowled out for sub-100, but sure, pitch doctoring. 8-) :laugh:

And yeah, chennai test was 50-50 that is why McGrath was smashed all through the test. :laugh:
Dude you know Mumbai was a substandard wicket with a result in 2.5 days, which is why CA complained about it to the ICC

And yeah the Chennai test chasing that score against McWarne and Gillespie was never a done deal for an Indian lineup in dodgy form.
 

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