Group A - India, England, Australia, West Indies

[superkingdave]

will be interesting, never seen him but heard good things about him

 

[Tomm NCCC]

This is crickets equivalent of a six-pointer. But instead its now a four-pointer

 

[aussie]

Cricinfo.com suggest that Mitchell Johnson is likely to play tomorrow. Be interesting to see how he gets on, considering all the talk there’s been about him playing the first test at the Gabba.

pretty unlikely IMO, don't think picking him over Hogg would be the best idea on those surfaces.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

pretty unlikely IMO, don't think picking him over Hogg would be the best idea on those surfaces.

Despite the fact that pace has been far more decisive than spin in the tournament thus far?

 

[aussie]

Despite the fact that pace has been far more decisive than spin in the tournament thus far?

true, but as Murali showed earlier today, Harbhajan & Powar in game 1 & Patel in the Kiwis two games so far, once the spinner gets it right, there is enough in the surfaces for them to be a serious treat, especially bowling first.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

true, but as Murali showed earlier today, Harbhajan & Powar in game 1 & Patel in the Kiwis two games so far, once the spinner gets it right, there is enough in the surfaces for them to be a serious treat, especially bowling first.

But considering that Andrew Symonds and Michael Clarke bowled more overs than Hogg in the last game and that Clarke looked really good in doing so, Australia may be willing to risk an extra seamer ahead of Hogg.

If Ponting's not going to bowl Hogg, might as well get someone in who he will bowl. That, especially as McGrath looks far short of his best.

 

[Nishant]

Why do india have an 11 day brk away from the game! Is it actually because of diwali or jsut a blunder in scheduling?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Why do india have an 11 day brk away from the game! Is it actually because of diwali or jsut a blunder in scheduling?

Fairly certain that it's not a blunder in scheduling. The CT has been scheduled for a fairly long time now. Trust that you're not the first person to spot an 11-day break for India.

Must be for Divali.

 

[social]

Despite the fact that pace has been far more decisive than spin in the tournament thus far?

With the exception of Taylor and Malinga, guys with extra pace have been the easiest to face. Lee, Harmison, Mahmood, the Pakistanis, Fernando etc etc simply come onto the bat at a nice pace and height (as they usually do in sub-continent)

It's medium pacers that have done relatively well because theyre basically bowling quick spinners and there is no pace for batsmen to use

 

[Pratters]

Why do india have an 11 day brk away from the game! Is it actually because of diwali or jsut a blunder in scheduling?

To keep the host in the tournament as long as possible. If India lost the first two games (despite the unlikely prospect of losing to England earlier), the concerns were that the interest in the tournament would dip.

India has played on Diwali (or at least around though I am fairly sure I have seen India play on Diwali) before and if you are going to keep a tournament in the middle of Diwali, each team should be provided similar schedules ideally.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

With the exception of Taylor and Malinga, guys with extra pace have been the easiest to face. Lee, Harmison, Mahmood, the Pakistanis, Fernando etc etc simply come onto the bat at a nice pace and height (as they usually do in sub-continent)

It's medium pacers that have done relatively well because theyre basically bowling quick spinners and there is no pace for batsmen to use

My reference to pace meant quicker than spinners.

 

[Laurrz]

But considering that Andrew Symonds and Michael Clarke bowled more overs than Hogg in the last game and that Clarke looked really good in doing so, Australia may be willing to risk an extra seamer ahead of Hogg.

If Ponting's not going to bowl Hogg, might as well get someone in who he will bowl. That, especially as McGrath looks far short of his best.

but the thing is, Clarke and Symonds aren't consistent wicket takers....Hogg CAN take a bagful

that said i would like to see Johnson play.... however in India you have got to play a matchwinning spinner...

 

[age_master]

In the 6 matches Clarke has played in India he has taken 8 wickets at 20.87

Symonds has played 11 and taken 7 wickets at 54.57

Hogg has played 10 and taken 5 wickets at 58

As much as i like Hoggs he bowl.ed poorly last game and has never performed in India, not saying he couldn't, but he hasn't done alot to ensure his selection. Interestingly of the 10 games that Hogg has played in India, Australia have only won 3. By comparison of the games Clarke in India has played the game against the WI was the first one that was lost.

 

[Laurrz]

In the 6 matches Clarke has played in India he has taken 8 wickets at 20.87

Symonds has played 11 and taken 7 wickets at 54.57

Hogg has played 10 and taken 5 wickets at 58

As much as i like Hoggs he bowl.ed poorly last game and has never performed in India, not saying he couldn't, but he hasn't done alot to ensure his selection. Interestingly of the 10 games that Hogg has played in India, Australia have only won 3. By comparison of the games Clarke in India has played the game against the WI was the first one that was lost.

some interesting stats

 

[Great Birtannia]

Bucknor and Bowden to stand the game. Hopefully that is the last time either of those muppets stand an Australian-England match this summer.

 

[superkingdave]

Aus win the toss and put England in. Not good for the games longeivity(sp)

 

[aussie]

Johnson plays, bit surprised but i guess it was the right choice.

 

[andyc]

Haha oh dear, Ponting wins the toss against England and elects to bowl, given the seaming conditions. Sound familiar?

 

[aussie]

some interesting stats

i'll say, i could have swore Hogg had a better record in India, but yea he wasn't that superb in his previous visit in 2003 TVS Cup.

 

[superkingdave]

England to make 179