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Greatest Ever Test XI
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chaminda_00
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The squads ok but i would Haynes not Hunte, and Lara or Lloyd not Weekes and Dujion as kepper not WalcottSlifer said:
aussie
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aussie
yeah agreed with chaminda their, lara should be their for me & even though LLyod was a great skipper it would be a big agrument whether he could make that side or not, definetly dujon has keeper though dont think Mr. Walcott could keep that well to those four fast bowlers
yeah agreed with chaminda their, lara should be their for me & even though LLyod was a great skipper it would be a big agrument whether he could make that side or not, definetly dujon has keeper though dont think Mr. Walcott could keep that well to those four fast bowlers
Unattainableguy
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I'm sure most Pakistanis would have added Younis Khan at 1 down spot after seeing him in the test series against India.mofo123 said:
chaminda_00
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One Test Series doesn't make a career, if so then Greg Blewett would still be in the Australian Test team after his Test Series aganist South Africa back in 97 (i think)Unattainableguy said:
younis khan maybe a future prospect but he will have to do a hell of a lot to get ahead of zaheer abbas...theres sum1 which the new batch can learn a thing or two from...i knw i missed may greats such as fazal mahmood, sarfraz nawaz, intikhab alam, saleem malik etc etc list goes on but i guess its all abt the ceam of the crop...to b honest i was too much of a wuss to put up a world XI far to difficult...involves thinkingUnattainableguy said:
FaaipDeOiad
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For me there are four certainties in every all-time XI - Hobbs, Bradman, Sobers and Gilchrist. The rest changes around a little for me, but those four are always there.
Jack Hobbs
Sunil Gavaskar
Donald Bradman
Walter Hammond
Gary Sobers
Keith Miller
Adam Gilchrist
Imran Khan
Richard Hadlee
Shane Warne
Glenn McGrath
There are enough of these threads that I can institute a rotational policy. Out comes Greg Chappell and Sydney Barnes, to be replaced by Keith Miller and Imran Khan.
Jack Hobbs
Sunil Gavaskar
Donald Bradman
Walter Hammond
Gary Sobers
Keith Miller
Adam Gilchrist
Imran Khan
Richard Hadlee
Shane Warne
Glenn McGrath
There are enough of these threads that I can institute a rotational policy. Out comes Greg Chappell and Sydney Barnes, to be replaced by Keith Miller and Imran Khan.
FaaipDeOiad
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Well you've got mostly criticism, but I'll back you up.Slifer said:
My Windies XI
Conrad Hunte (beats Haynes out comfortably for me)
Gordon Greenidge
Vivian Richards
George Headley
Brian Lara
Garfield Sobers (c)
Jeff Dujon (k)
Malcolm Marshall
Michael Holding
Curtley Ambrose
Joel Garner
12th Man: Everton Weekes (very, very unlucky)
Mr Mxyzptlk
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What?!chaminda_00 said:
No Weeks or Walcott? Lloyd and Dujon are not worthy.
Everton Weekes
Clyde Walcott
FaaipDeOiad
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I think perhaps the reason Walcott is left out is because he really wasn't a keeper most of the time. If you look at his record he has almost as many catches as a fielder as when he was keeping - 26 in the field and 27 behind the stumps. He only kept in a fraction of his 44 tests and as such can't really be considered for the keeping position in an all-time XI. And for me Lara, Headley, Richards and Sobers beat Weekes, who is very unlucky to not make the side and is clearly the 5th best middle order bat ever for the West Indies in my view.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
chaminda_00
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Dujon for Walcott was down to keeping mainly.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
I was think more Lara over Weekes, Lloyd would come close cus of his captanicy, but i guess Sobers and Richards are there.
Mr Mxyzptlk
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Lara is a wonderful batsman and a true great, but I find it very hard to leave out Everton Weekes at his expense. Weekes has a phenominal record. I'd take Lara over Richards though.
FaaipDeOiad
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I don't see how you could take Lara over Richards. Richards averaged in the mid 50s for most of his career in an era of great bowlers and tricky pitches, and led his side to become one of the greatest ever. He was also named one of the Wisden circketers of the century along with Hobbs, Bradman, Warne and Sobers. He's an automatic selection for me. Lara is a better player of quality spin bowling (mostly because Richards rarely faced any of it) and is certainly an all-time great who warrants a place in the Windies all-time XI and a look in for a world all-time XI too, but he's not quite as good as Richards.Mr Mxyzptlk said:
And as far as Weekes is concerned, well he's a great but he's still not as good as Richards, Headley, Lara or Sobers. Have a look at his test centuries - he played in an era with two good sides (England and Australia), and 7 of his 15 test centuries came against India, 3 against New Zealand and 1 against Pakistan. He only averaged 45 against England and 39 against Australia respectively, compared to 83 against the other three countries of his era combined.
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Mr Mxyzptlk
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I wrote an article explaining why I'd take Lara over Richards a while back. If I can find it, I'll post it here.FaaipDeOiad said:
Both Lara and Richards were inconsistent, but Lara has accomplished more. Richards gets more glory because of the era in which he played. The West Indies was a force then and Viv Richards was the personification of that force. Now Lara is a great among the mediocre and will never get the recognition he perhaps deserves.