Migara
International Coach
Some one I have seen mentioned Hauritz, van der Merwe etc. Jayasuriya much better than them
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Gilchrist v Dhoni
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Was referring to '07- he was really rather poor up until the final.
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Take of the Sri Lankan-tinted glasses IMO.
honestbharani
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I have seen Jayasuriya take fifers and change the course of games with the ball. Given that I am yet to see either Hauritz or Van Der Merwe do it as yet and given that Sanath has been around and done it for far far longer than these two have, I don't see why it can be conveniently brushed aside as bias at all.......
Ikki
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I think you were watching a different world cup mate. He averaged 38 @ 93 in the prelims, and scored 149 in the final.
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Pfft. No, I was watching the same tournament. Gilly scored nothing against anyone of note until the final. Those runs largely came against Scotland, the Netherlands and Bangladesh.
inzi_afridi
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gilly gilly all the way
Migara
International Coach
So you are suggesting that Hauritz > Jayasuriya or VDM > Jayasuriya?
Migara
International Coach
3 ODIs vs 400 odd? And all the matches played against BAN. We are talking of ODI bowling
GGG
State Captain
oh sorry I didn't actually notice "all time ODI team", just read the title and presumed "test matches", would still pick Gilchrist.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Why is Dhoni somehow faulted for the not outs when it is seen as a strength of Bevan?
Athlai
Not Terrible
Chris Harris?
250 ODI's played
4739 runs @ 29
203 wickets @ 37.40 Economy 4.28
Who are you talking about?
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
No they didn't. Check again. His runs didn't plop out against weaker teams and fail against the others. He scored runs pretty much throughout regardless of who he was playing. In the WC you don't play the best in the world until the very end, really. Here are Australia's matches in 07 and how he scored:
Match #1:
Scotland
Gilchrist: 46 runs @ 83.63
Match #2:
Netherlands
Gilchrist: 57 runs @ 89.06
Match #3:
South Africa
Gilchrist: 42 runs @ 100
Match #4:
West Indies
Gilchrist: 7 runs @ 77.77
Match #5:
Bangladesh
Gilchrist: 59 runs @ 134.09
Match #6:
England
Gilchrist: 27 runs @ 72.97
Match #7:
Ireland
Gilchrist: 34 runs @ 136.00
Match #8:
Sri Lanka
Gilchrist: 30 runs @ 61.22
Match #9:
New Zealand
Gilchrist: 1 run @ 50
Match #10:
South Africa
Gilchrist: 1 run @ 20
Match #11:
Sri Lanka
Gilchrist: 149 runs @ 143.26
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So, as you can see, he didn't beat up on anybody until the final. He scored consistently throughout.
Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
Is it? Probably has to do with the fact that often than not, when Bevan made a contribution, he was the thread holding the team together. Some of those situations were intense and dire; him remaining not-out in many of those situations would be the only reason I see for it.
Athlai
Not Terrible
109 @ 18.17 is hardly consistent.
Migara
International Coach
Nope. Paul Harris of SAF.
Chris Harris?
250 ODI's played
4739 runs @ 29
203 wickets @ 37.40 Economy 4.28
Who are you talking about?
Even Chris Harris has inferior record to Jaya.
13,000 Runs @ 31
300+ wickets at 36 Econ 4.7
Better batsman
Better bowler
Harris better fielder, but not by much.
Better captain
But we are comparing their bowling BTW
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Ikki
Hall of Fame Member
What? He scores a decent amount in pretty much every match bar 3; one of them which is ironically a minnow (WIndies), another when the last game of the prelims was basically a scratch match (NZ) and only 1 really relevant bad score against S.Africa in the semis. Scored throughout, regardless of who. To say he was carried to a final is revisionism.
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Athlai
Not Terrible
Why would I have been talking about Paul Harris who you hadn't mentioned at all instead of the player from NZ you highlighted.
Wickets are irrelevant as you have already noted he did play 400 ODI's to Harris' 250
The Average and Economy would be the stats way to fight this out and Harris economy rate is far far superior.
Jayasuriya by a fair bit the better batsman
Harris better bowler
Harris better fielder
Both equally awesome in terms of old men running around on the cricket field like young men.