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Geraint Jones

geraint jones

  • back him

    Votes: 40 51.9%
  • sack him

    Votes: 37 48.1%

  • Total voters
    77

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
all those who heard Freddie's comment when asked about Jones should realise that Jones will never be dropped....
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
he may have the support of the players but the support of the selectors is totally different. Just because hes Freddies pal doesnt mean he wont get sacked, although i like him, there will come a time when the selectors say enough is enough if he keeps making these errors, although i still believe he has the talent to suceed at that level.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
He very nearly lost the Ashes for Australia (may have lost them still). I have always believed that a keeper should be selected on the basis of his keeping.
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
sledger said:
he may have the support of the players but the support of the selectors is totally different. Just because hes Freddies pal doesnt mean he wont get sacked, although i like him, there will come a time when the selectors say enough is enough if he keeps making these errors, although i still believe he has the talent to suceed at that level.
I'm sure that there will come a time - but I don't think that's right now.

The selectors do abandon ship when players are shown to be not up to the task, but many of the recent caps (Rikki Clarke and Anthony McGrath apart) who have fallen by the wayside still maintain a presence in or around the squad.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
neither rikki or mcgrath have any real chance of a test recall do they ?

although jones has been more of a success than either of those two donkeys, if hes not in the test side i think jones should at least be the reserve to read, because there are no others who can out perform either of them in the country at the moment, prior is overated and just a thrasher, i dont care what anyone says i can see no reason why he should be selected for england ahead of geraint jones. ( at the present time and in the immediate future )
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
honestbharani said:
He very nearly lost the Ashes for Australia (may have lost them still). I have always believed that a keeper should be selected on the basis of his keeping.
:wacko:
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
ok after the recent series in pakistan after keeping well and not doing dreadfully with the bat what is everyones stance on geraint jones' position in the side now. After prior emerged to have one good innings i would say that jones place in the side is not really under threat, maybe a case should be put forward for chris read to be recalled but if that doesnt happen i would say that the most appropriate course of action would be to keep jones as i still think he has the ability to perform at this level.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
He's too irresponsible with the bat. That sweep shot he played to Kaneria to give him his 1st wicket (I think it was the 3rd test) was honestly possibly the worst shot I've ever seen. You can't have him throwing his wicket away when you have batsman like Flintoff and Pietersen who go for their shots more often then not. That can, at its worst, wind up being 3 wickets thrown away due to poor shot selection or impatience.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Very, very average.

Was woeful with the gloves and not too bad with the bat in the Ashes and retained his place.

Was totally undisciplined with the bat and serviceable with the gloves in Pakistan and retained his place.

Prior has proven that he's at least his equal with the bat, let him keep for once!
 

open365

International Vice-Captain
It's very depressing the Jones is the best we have as a keeper batsman atm.

i would say sack if it wasn't for the lack of quality keepers in England atm.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
i think the only real alternative to jones is read, prior has shown nothing to suggest that he is any better equipped to play for england than jones is, prior and jones batting is about the same but prior's keeping may be better, but if england want a better keeper then it should be read without question, prior and jones batting is about the same
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
social said:
Prior has proven that he's at least his equal with the bat, let him keep for once!
Why, when Jones' keeping has improved (how many misses in Pakistan was it?) and Prior is known to be worse with the gloves?
 

LongHopCassidy

International Captain
Can't believe I voted 'back him' several months back!

IMO very negative selection by England. If you subtract the byes he concedes from his batting average, there are many better alternatives with the gloves.

Read may not be the finest bat but he will NOT cost the side unnecessary runs.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
LongHopCassidy said:
IMO very negative selection by England. If you subtract the byes he concedes from his batting average, there are many better alternatives with the gloves.
15 in the 3 Pakistan games (and by comparison, Akmal let by 13 in just the last innings of the series)
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
The onus needs to be put on him to be a batsman, not a "Wicketkeeper who makes runs". Because he's good enough to, but at the moment seems to impetuous. I think he'll mature within the next year, and will never be a superstar with the gloves. But when you've got a decent tail to bat with like he does, he needs to realise that there's no hurry. Wait for the right ball, feed that cut shot, and he'll be fine.
 

Neil Pickup

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LongHopCassidy said:
Can't believe I voted 'back him' several months back!

IMO very negative selection by England. If you subtract the byes he concedes from his batting average, there are many better alternatives with the gloves.

Read may not be the finest bat but he will NOT cost the side unnecessary runs.
Remember Trent Bridge? Flintoff and Jones' 177-run stand? Reckon Read would've got us even halfway there?
 

savill

School Boy/Girl Captain
I think England should stick with Jones for the time being. We need his batting at No.7 and his keeping is improving (gradually). I think Steven Davies at Worcestershire is the one to solve England's keeping problems and being only 19 years old has all the time in the world.
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
vic_orthdox said:
The onus needs to be put on him to be a batsman, not a "Wicketkeeper who makes runs". Because he's good enough to, but at the moment seems to impetuous. I think he'll mature within the next year, and will never be a superstar with the gloves. But when you've got a decent tail to bat with like he does, he needs to realise that there's no hurry. Wait for the right ball, feed that cut shot, and he'll be fine.
TBF to Geraint I suspect he's actively encouraged to score his runs quickly. A case in point is Prior's selection over Read for the Pakistan tour. Read actually averaged about 12 more in 2005 than Prior (45 to 33, or thereabouts) but Prior was picked bcaused he scored his runs more rapidly.
 

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