Freddie claims he was shot at in Delhi....

[Sanz]

Pellet drama - Quote from BBC Archives

Bit strange responses. Mostly from people who are just jealous a player like Flintoff isn't in their national side. Sad losers. Anyone who watches Flintoff and has heard him speak knows he is as honest as the day is long. Anybody who automatically calls him a liar is just ignorant and missing a genuine world class all-rounder in their team.

Pellet drama

Flintoff was also quick to play down his role in the pellet drama that halted the Indian innings for several minutes.

"It was something and nothing..... It's something we've had a laugh about in the dressing room - it was like a bee sting and I certainly wasn't scarred for life or anything like that."

"I've got the odd shout that I'm a big lump from Lancashire and things like that - it's just like being at Headingley really, but I don't understand them and I don't suppose they understand me,"

http://212.58.226.40/sport1/low/cricket/england/1796253.stm

Dont know in which statement Freddie was being honest, Then or now

 

[greg]

Pellet drama

Flintoff was also quick to play down his role in the pellet drama that halted the Indian innings for several minutes.

"It was something and nothing..... It's something we've had a laugh about in the dressing room - it was like a bee sting and I certainly wasn't scarred for life or anything like that."

"I've got the odd shout that I'm a big lump from Lancashire and things like that - it's just like being at Headingley really, but I don't understand them and I don't suppose they understand me,"

http://212.58.226.40/sport1/low/cricket/england/1796253.stm

Dont know in which statement Freddie was being honest, Then or now

What's the difference? He hasn't changed his account. All he has said now is that looking back perhaps more should have been done about it than was. And it's hardly surprising that you have found some quotes of him "laughing it off" since the whole point is that it was covered up!

 

[Sanz]

I don't really care. You can believe he made things up for no reason. That's your prerogative.

"It wasn't as if the missiles hurt the players or anything like that, it was more of a distraction while they were fielding by the boundary," - Nealy

"I think the England cricketers' imagination has run wild on this occasion...It was discovered to be a small piece of cardboard from a blow-horn that might have been blown into the ground by the wind. ...The police frisked every spectator entering the ground. Matchboxes and lighters were not allowed in. Where's the chance of pellet-guns being brought into the spectator galleries? ....It's just crazy to think someone sitting in the crowded galleries could repeatedly fire pellets at players more than 20 metres from the boundary line." - Maninder Singh Jaggi DDCA member in 2002


"I'm not going to make a big deal about it - these things have happened through the series and whenever anybody plays out here and it's down to high spirits....That was taking it a bit too far, but it's nice we can speak to people and get it sorted out because we had no problems after that." - Nasser Hussain


http://212.58.226.40/sport1/hi/cricket/england/1793659.stm

 

[greg]

"It wasn't as if the missiles hurt the players or anything like that, it was more of a distraction while they were fielding by the boundary," - Nealy

"I think the England cricketers' imagination has run wild on this occasion...It was discovered to be a small piece of cardboard from a blow-horn that might have been blown into the ground by the wind. ...The police frisked every spectator entering the ground. Matchboxes and lighters were not allowed in. Where's the chance of pellet-guns being brought into the spectator galleries? ....It's just crazy to think someone sitting in the crowded galleries could repeatedly fire pellets at players more than 20 metres from the boundary line." - Maninder Singh Jaggi DDCA member in 2002


"I'm not going to make a big deal about it - these things have happened through the series and whenever anybody plays out here and it's down to high spirits....That was taking it a bit too far, but it's nice we can speak to people and get it sorted out because we had no problems after that." - Nasser Hussain


http://212.58.226.40/sport1/hi/cricket/england/1793659.stm

You should use all this material to get a job as a private investigator, Sanz. You've obviously got a talent for it

 

[Sanz]

You should use all this material to get a job as a private investigator, Sanz. You've obviously got a talent for it

Thanks but it doesn't require that much talent. Try Googling with words like 'Pellet', 'Flintoff' and 'Delhi' and see what is the first link that comes up.

 

[Sanz]

What's the difference? He hasn't changed his account. All he has said now is that looking back perhaps more should have been done about it than was. And it's hardly surprising that you have found some quotes of him "laughing it off" since the whole point is that it was covered up!

Well I was basically commenting on "Anyone who watches Flintoff and has heard him speak knows he is as honest as the day is long" part of the post by Jace11. It just means that at least Flintoff wasn't being honest (for whatever reasons) in one of the occasions.

 

[Dasa]

"It wasn't as if the missiles hurt the players or anything like that, it was more of a distraction while they were fielding by the boundary," - Nealy

"I think the England cricketers' imagination has run wild on this occasion...It was discovered to be a small piece of cardboard from a blow-horn that might have been blown into the ground by the wind. ...The police frisked every spectator entering the ground. Matchboxes and lighters were not allowed in. Where's the chance of pellet-guns being brought into the spectator galleries? ....It's just crazy to think someone sitting in the crowded galleries could repeatedly fire pellets at players more than 20 metres from the boundary line." - Maninder Singh Jaggi DDCA member in 2002


"I'm not going to make a big deal about it - these things have happened through the series and whenever anybody plays out here and it's down to high spirits....That was taking it a bit too far, but it's nice we can speak to people and get it sorted out because we had no problems after that." - Nasser Hussain


http://212.58.226.40/sport1/hi/cricket/england/1793659.stm

Hmmm. I wonder if we'll see apologies from people who took this as an opportunity to cast a slur upon an entire nation and it's people. Somehow, I doubt it.

 

[cricket player]

If this incident would have happened in Pakistan England would have canceld touring pakistan.

 

[GladiatrsInBlue]

If this incident would have happened in Pakistan England would have canceld touring pakistan.

Is this ur wish, bcoz alot of Pakistanis are wishing along the same line as they realise that their team is all set to get slaughtered at the hand of Englishmen in the comming series!!!

I think England won't cancel the tour to Pak as they are keen to beat them 3-0 to gain important point to get nearer to number one spot in world.

 

[Deja moo]

Are you talking of these?

1. Flintoff shot in Delhi
2. Flintoff was run over by an elephant in Kolkata
3. Flintoff was bitten by a snake in Kanpur- content warning

Interestingly, the last two only appeared on SportNetwork.

Even the lowly rat becomes a king within its own burrow

 

[Sanz]

Even the lowly rat becomes a king within its own burrow

As always Moo comes up with his preconceived notion..anyone with decent IQ would first check out the timing of my post here @CW and the post there @the link. Also If you are still not sure Please feel free to contact the moderators of both the forums to find out the fact.

Neither am I member of that forum, nor is my name Rajeev.

But Moo is just being himself, cant help it and as he says 'even the lowly rat becomes....", he and his post are a perfectg example of that.

 

[Deja moo]

As always Moo comes up with his preconceived notion..anyone with decent IQ would first check out the timing of my post here @CW and the post there @the link. Also If you are still not sure Please feel free to contact the moderators of both the forums to find out the fact.

Neither am I member of that forum, nor is my name Rajeev.

But Moo is just being himself, cant help it and as he says 'even the lowly rat becomes....", he and his post are a perfectg example of that.

And as his his habit, Sanz jumps the gun, with embarrassing results. Doesnt account for the fact that I havent even implied that hes Rajeev ( Sehwag309 anyone ? ). Smarting so much from your previous humiliation that you just couldnt help biting the bait . Ooooh, how embarrassing...again !

 

[Sanz]

Doesnt account for the fact that I havent even implied that hes Rajeev ( Sehwag309 anyone ?

Urgh !!! it is posted by someone named Rajeev @sportnetwork or whatever that site you quoted in your post, talk about IQ level ..Anyways, as you said yourself, it was your attempt to 'bait', which is what you have been doing lately.

As for the previous humiliations, keep living in your falacy world. Did you watch Zaheer's post match interview with Gautam (bhimani) today. In one week he became the 3rd Indian player to talk about the 'negatives' in the dressing room and guess who it was directed @.

 

[luckyeddie]

Erm no, thats not overreaction - i dont know about laws in England but in Canada a superior who has knowingly asked you to endanger your life ( without it being a contract specification) is guilty of criminal negligence.

Being shot at and the superior ( captain in this case) saying 'its okay-just ignore it..now go back to yer spot' is a classic case of criminal negligence.

Nasser Hussain made an awful lot of it at the time - it was the English tour management who didn't want to make a lot of it - and to judge the way this thread went, justifiably so when you look at the utter twaddle that's been said - and your post here rivals anything that Sanz could produce for sheer, mind-blowing nonsense.

What was Hussain supposed to do? Take the team off? Go home? Shoot everyone in the crowd?

 

[Sanz]

your post here rivals anything that Sanz could produce for sheer, mind-blowing nonsense.

I guess BBC Archives are producing nonsense as well, eh ?

What was Hussain supposed to do? Take the team off? Go home? Shoot everyone in the crowd?

Report it to the authorities and not sweep it under the carpet, but as it appears from the BBC reports, it seems like a case of 'Much Ado About Nothing' and probably that was the reason why the management decided against reporting it.

 

[C_C]

Nasser Hussain made an awful lot of it at the time - it was the English tour management who didn't want to make a lot of it - and to judge the way this thread went, justifiably so when you look at the utter twaddle that's been said - and your post here rivals anything that Sanz could produce for sheer, mind-blowing nonsense.

What was Hussain supposed to do? Take the team off? Go home? Shoot everyone in the crowd?

I think you are talking garbage here. Hussain's job, if one of the members of his team was shot at, was to take them off the field.

And i have high esteem for you so i am rather surprised to see you think what i am saying to be absolute twaddle - ofcourse, some total muppets here like Scaly Piscine and others slandering an entire nation just because one person made a claim is oh so valid.
I suppose waiting to hear both sides of the story is complete twaddle.
I suppose saying that i find it INCREDULOUS that there was no discernable change in Flintoff's bodylanguage - he went up to Hussain who went up to the umps and then Flintoff went back right where he was - makes it a highly unlikely case that he was shot at or it is not taking a liberal dose of poetic license to put his version of the story on paper.

Yes, i suppose demanding all that is twaddle indeed. Afterall, Flintoff is His Royal Divine Highness Andrew Flintoff who's words are gospel to all mankind and thus cannot be questioned.

F*ck logic or reasoning or even being neutral enough to ask for evidence .

You seriously disappoint me with that comment up there.

 

[Deja moo]

Urgh !!! it is posted by someone named Rajeev @sportnetwork or whatever that site you quoted in your post, talk about IQ level ..Anyways, as you said yourself, it was your attempt to 'bait', which is what you have been doing lately.

As for the previous humiliations, keep living in your falacy world. Did you watch Zaheer's post match interview with Gautam (bhimani) today. In one week he became the 3rd Indian player to talk about the 'negatives' in the dressing room and guess who it was directed @.

Yup, and you fell for it hook line and sinker. Shows how itchy you are to get back at me, doesnt it?

I havent watched it, and I'm assuming from your tone that hes after Chappell ? What a surprise .

 

[Deja moo]

Urgh !!! it is posted by someone named Rajeev @sportnetwork or whatever that site you quoted in your post, talk about IQ level ..Anyways, as you said yourself, it was your attempt to 'bait', which is what you have been doing lately.

Talking of IQ levels, I guess this should clear up any doubts as to yours :

http://forum.cricketweb.net/showpost.php?p=317140&postcount=81

and the 28th post on : http://www.sportnetwork.net/boards/read/s119.php?f=118&i=109681&t=109348&sid=119

 

[Jono]

Hmmm. I wonder if we'll see apologies from people who took this as an opportunity to cast a slur upon an entire nation and it's people. Somehow, I doubt it.

No you see Dasa, its all a conspiracy still.

 

[Langeveldt]

Report it to the authorities and not sweep it under the carpet,

Do you mean the ICC or the police? Everyone knows the ICC is totally incompetant, and I'm not sure what the attitudes of the Indian police would have been.. Bit of a waste of time IMO..