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England vs. Australia, 21st Sept

Kent

State 12th Man
After watching the Natwest Series, it almost sickens me that England and the West Indies now have a 2 in 3 chance of winning a major piece of silverware!

I'm starting to see why baseball decides its prestigious titles over at least 160 games, rather than 3 and a half....
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Man that feels good. :) It's nice to see Australia lose once in a while. :D

Great knock by the Captain and the Vice Captain. Congrtulations to their fans.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Kent said:
After watching the Natwest Series, it almost sickens me that England and the West Indies now have a 2 in 3 chance of winning a major piece of silverware!

I'm starting to see why baseball decides its prestigious titles over at least 160 games, rather than 3 and a half....
where are those grapes again?

Also baseball doesn't have prestigious titles, they're just club titles with over-the-top names.
 
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luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Kent said:
After watching the Natwest Series, it almost sickens me that England and the West Indies now have a 2 in 3 chance of winning a major piece of silverware!

I'm starting to see why baseball decides its prestigious titles over at least 160 games, rather than 3 and a half....
Don't worry, Kent.

While you are metaphorically losing your guts, I shall be smiling quietly to myself safe in the knowledge that you are an extremely sore and ungracious loser.

It's possible that you just haven't had much practice in being at the bottom of the pile over the last few years (which, God only knows, we have), but looking back on the test series between our two countries this summer and the standard of some of the 'up-and-coming' Kiwis, I'm sure you'll have plenty of opportunity to get used to it.
 

Slow Love™

International Captain
maxpower said:
good victory for ENG, congrats. A lot of ppl have said the ponting is a "great" captain, and I understand this is just one loss, but how good was the captaining from ponting while AUS was bowling and on backfoot, anything creative ? any conviction ? Again its only one loss but AUS should not have raised the standards that high and expect me not to complain :)
Personally, I've only seen one person in these parts describe Ponting as a "great" captain, although maybe I've just not seen the rest. I think he's competent in his field settings, but I don't think he handles his bowlers terrifically well. On the other hand, I thought Vaughan handled his bowlers very capably tonight.
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
Kent said:
After watching the Natwest Series, it almost sickens me that England and the West Indies now have a 2 in 3 chance of winning a major piece of silverware!

I'm starting to see why baseball decides its prestigious titles over at least 160 games, rather than 3 and a half....
LOL! Have a cry mate :)
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Scaly piscine said:
where are those grapes again?

Also baseball doesn't have prestigious titles, they're just club titles with over-the-top names.
They have 'World' titles - only they don't let anyone else play - not even the Japanese and Cubans (especially the Cubans who are as good, if not better than the US on occcasion) just in case.
 

Swervy

International Captain
Kent said:
After watching the Natwest Series, it almost sickens me that England and the West Indies now have a 2 in 3 chance of winning a major piece of silverware!

I'm starting to see why baseball decides its prestigious titles over at least 160 games, rather than 3 and a half....
its called winning the games that count...get over it

I mean..those 160 games all boil down to a few playoff games at the end anyway.
 

Kent

State 12th Man
Scaly piscine said:
where are those grapes again?
What? Our grapes aren't exactly hard to find, and NZ wine is superb!

I just wish we could get rid of some of our damn vineyards, orchards and farmland and put towns there instead. A bigger polulation might mean more Shane Bonds....
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Kent's also not very good at maths.

Why a 2 in 3 chance?

All things being equal (and there is, frankly, little difference between the standard of the 3 teams remaining), England now have a 50% chance of winning the whole thing. Both Pakistan and the West Indies have a 50% chance each of making it to the final.

That's (0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5)) in 1, or 75%
 

biased indian

International Coach
Ricky ponting has lost in one of his missions of winning the ICC trophy

hope he loose on the next one also 8-)

one disappionting fact for me today was the crowd at the ground. a stadium which was full of noise when Ind and Pak where playing was half empty when the Aus and Eng were playing :-O :-O
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
biased indian said:
Ricky ponting has lost in one of his missions of winning the ICC trophy

hope he loose on the next one also 8-)

one disappionting fact for me today was the crowd at the ground. a stadium which was full of noise when Ind and Pak where playing was half empty when the Aus and Eng were playing :-O :-O
Forty quid a ticket - and on a weekday too.
 

Kent

State 12th Man
luckyeddie said:
Kent's also not very good at maths.

Why a 2 in 3 chance?

All things being equal (and there is, frankly, little difference between the standard of the 3 teams remaining), England now have a 50% chance of winning the whole thing. Both Pakistan and the West Indies have a 50% chance each of making it to the final.

That's (0.5 + (0.5 * 0.5)) in 1, or 75%
Come on, Eddie. Pakistan's superior talents (and the fact they were the last to win anything significant) justifies me knocking the odds down at least 8%!
 

luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Kent said:
Come on, Eddie. Pakistan's superior talents (and the fact they were the last to win anything significant) justifies me knocking the odds down at least 8%!
*cough*Afridi*cough*

deducts a further 23% for cheek
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
luckyeddie said:
Bob, have a beer.
I don't like the taste of alcohol. It's often argued amongst my friends that I'm the most out of place New Zealander in the world. :)
luckyeddie said:
We are far more reserved than that as a nation.
luckyeddie said:
It's possible that you just haven't had much practice in being at the bottom of the pile over the last few years (which, God only knows, we have), but looking back on the test series between our two countries this summer and the standard of some of the 'up-and-coming' Kiwis, I'm sure you'll have plenty of opportunity to get used to it.
Come now. ;) NZ is pretty good at being at the bottom, mind you. We spent enough time there to build a city!

Still, the English have taught me a lot of things - Always look on the bright side of life being one of them, and at least we won every completed match we played in an ODI triseries over two of the potential winners. :) Everyone who follows cricket knows there's always some way to figure out some kind of excuse or process that would make your team the best in the world if you're blind enough! :D

Kent said:
After watching the Natwest Series, it almost sickens me that England and the West Indies now have a 2 in 3 chance of winning a major piece of silverware!

I'm starting to see why baseball decides its prestigious titles over at least 160 games, rather than 3 and a half....
Top international level baseball tournaments between various countries are played over 160 games?! Goodness. I thought only domestic teams played tournaments of such length. :p

luckyeddie said:
So right - Kumeu (SP?) River - wonderful.
Kumeu! Man, I used to live not far from there. Good times. Although Kumeu wines weren't as nice as those in Henderson, from memory. Not that I'd know, I just got forced into a study of Waitakere Wine in 5th form Geography.

Can't believe any sport can get away with charging £40 a ticket. That's just over NZ$108, and that's insane.
 
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luckyeddie

Cricket Web Staff Member
Tom Halsey said:
England comprehensively thrash Australia. How nice does that sound? :D
Very. Now you've had your 'woo-hoo' - let's go back to being all reserved and stiff-upper-lipped.







Until Scally shows up :laugh:
 

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