England can beat India "every day of week": Gough

[Cabinet96]

Also making the massive assumption that Zaheer's fit.

Gun call!

 

[Agent Nationaux]

I love this thread tbh. One of the only times where I made a genuine prediction based not completely on what had already transpired and it turned out pretty awesome. Should do it more often.

PEWS is truly ahead of his times. A great visionary who brilliantly analysed the English team as being "without any weak links" even before the Indian whitewash.

 

[Flem274*]

He's just a **** tbh.

 

[Athlai]

I call bull****, England have a hole at 6 and Cribb tried to wax lyrical about that waste of space Collingwood.

 

[Teja.]

Called a 3-1 to England iirc.

Underestimated the sheer level of destruction slightly.

 

[Black_Warrior]

PEWS is truly ahead of his times. A great visionary who brilliantly analysed the English team as being "without any weak links" even before the Indian whitewash.

I am not going to say the England team is without any 'weak links' though. The batting is vulnerable to quality bowling as we saw last summer against Pakistan.

 

[Prince EWS]

I am not going to say the England team is without any 'weak links' though. The batting is vulnerable to quality bowling as we saw last summer against Pakistan.

That's a weakness rather than a weak link though. A weak link is a player or a position that is vulnerable. And frankly, every team ever has a weakness to extremely high quality cricket in helpful conditions.

Collingwood being replaced by Morgan definitely has left England with a weak link anyway though.

 

[benchmark00]

Collingw00d was clearly a weak link in the last Ashes series. It's just that Australia had alot more weak links and England could cover up their weak link.

 

[Black_Warrior]

That's a weakness rather than a weak link though. A weak link is a player or a position that is vulnerable. And frankly, every team ever has a weakness to extremely high quality cricket in helpful conditions.

Collingwood being replaced by Morgan definitely has left England with a weak link anyway though.

 

[Prince EWS]

Collingw00d was clearly a weak link in the last Ashes series. It's just that Australia had alot more weak links and England could cover up their weak link.

Yeah, no doubt he was. Wasn't entirely convinced he was going to continue to be such though; although I did mention him as a possible area of concern.

 

[Prince EWS]

 

[honestbharani]

lol.. PEWS.. some straws are stronger than your weaklink vs weakness argument..

 

[Prince EWS]

lol.. PEWS.. some straws are stronger than your weaklink vs weakness argument..

Nah; it's completely different. A weak link is a weak player who is not good at his role. All players have weaknesses; it doesn't make their weak links. And frankly, as I said, a weakness to excellent cricket in helpful conditions is well, obvious.

I actually don't think England have no weak links at present because Morgan is clearly one, but what Black_Warrior was talking about is definitely not a weak link.

 

[Athlai]

Na PEWS is right, a weaklink is a weaker part of a chain, a weakness is something that the whole chain may suffer from.

 

[benchmark00]

Na PEWS is right, a weaklink is a weaker part of a chain, a weakness is something that the whole chain may suffer from.

But the two aren't mutually exclusive.

If someone has a weakness against short pitched bowling, and they play on a bouncy pitch, then he becomes a weak link due to that weakness.

****ing horrible pedantic argument. Sh00t me for getting involved.

 

[Zinzan]

A counterargument on the lines of Zak not deserving credit because he's performing in Indian conditions, is that barring Trott, none of the English batsmen are class because they all average less than or around 50 at home, but ideally they should average like 55 or even 60 at home as they've all played their cricket there.

lol...

 

[Athlai]

If the whole chain suffers from the weakness then it isn't a weak link, it's a weak chain.

 

[Black_Warrior]

PEWS is not wrong...its just that he was being annoyingly pedantic about it..which is why I laughed at him..

 

[Burgey]

Cribbeh is the new Richard.

 

[Black_Warrior]

But the two aren't mutually exclusive.

If someone has a weakness against short pitched bowling, and they play on a bouncy pitch, then he becomes a weak link due to that weakness.

****ing horrible pedantic argument. Sh00t me for getting involved.

Nope you're absolutely right. The only one who should be getting shot is PEWS.