Do You Think These Players Will Play Internationally?

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Jesse Ryder - It'll be a big disappointment if he never plays. Really needs to sort his attitude out and show he's willing to do the hard yards with Wellington. Possibly needs to keep his cool until Bracers is booted.
Rob Nicol - Doing well, and still young. Looks solid, looking at a decent year ahead
Greg Hay - Not quite as experienced as Nicol, less pressure to perform at the moment. Needs to build on previous years
Aaron Redmond - Much like Nicol. May need to concentrate on batting and forget his part time bowling.
Neil Broom - Bit like Hay, possibly looks less talented. Will be interesting to see how he performs
David Houpapa - Got the talent, not so sure on his application. Want to see him grind out runs in adversity
Peter Ingram - Needs to do as well as last year. Very tough for him as his first class record is poor. Has ability to make the big scores, but a tendancy for early dismissals could see him have a shocker.
Bevan Griggs - Unless McCullum gets injured, he has little chance. Even a stack of runs won't really see him in contention. Needs to persevere.
Tim Southee - Too young to see him in international colours this year. Would be good to see him average around 15-20 with the bat to prove he could be a good number 9. Looking for him to maintain a low economy rate, not so bothered about the average in this year. KEEP FREE OF INJURIES
Corey Anderson - Too young to judge. It'd be good to see him get some decent game time, low expectations.
Richard Sherlock - We'll be lucky to see him play, frankly.
Hamish Bennet - Needs to keep developing. Haven't seen enough of him to judge his weaknesses.
Bradley Scott - Not good enough to play for the Blackcaps. Needs to find another 10kmph with his bowling to stand a chance at international level. Frankly shouldn't get a chance ahead of Southee
James McMillan - Not good enough. Picked on name alone.
Paul Hitchcock - Not good enough. Better options around. Still, Bracers seems to like him from what I understand. Could get some 20:20 game time.
Graeme Aldridge - Make or break year for Aldo. He's not getting any younger, and he'll be relying on continued injury problems with Mills, Tuffey and Franklin and a poor start to the summer from Martin to get a break. Maybe needs to get rid of the mullet.
Matthew Harvie - Needs to keep developing. Haven't seen enough of him to judge his weaknesses.

 

[Pup Clarke]

No one will even know who most of these guys are but oh well:

Why not?, I've heard of the majority of them.

 

[Flem274*]

Why not?, I've heard of the majority of them.

Usually their names aren't thrown around as frequently as guys from CC and the Aussie comp. Good to know you've heard of them though.

 

[Perm]

End of the season - time to up date the list

Bopara - In Sri Lanka with the ODI team
Godleman - Started the season well but fizzled out. Maybe another season needed
Denly - Started well and also fizzled out
Horton
Hildreth
Ambrose -
Wright - In Sri Lanka with ODI team
Wagg
Rashid
Swann - In Sri Lanka with ODI team
Kabir Ali
Bresnan
Plunkett
Waters - Bowlers like Jordan and Finn look better.

Ravi Bopara, Luke Wright, Graeme Swann, Kabir Ali, Tim Bresnan and Liam Plunkett have all played internationally.

 

[Perm]

Jesse Ryder - Major attitude problems. One of the most talented batsman in New Zealand, but isn't in the eyes of selectors at this point in time due to his careless nature, being overweight and being lazy. If he sorts those issues out, he could become an international player, but not until Bracewell is sacked as coach.
Rob Nicol - I like him, alot. Very good First Class player, scores runs in a no-frills manner and has been on a few 'A' tours. I'd like to see him scoring more runs for Auckland, putting together big scores, and getting his career average up over 40. Probably not in contention due to being a poor OD player, which is a shame.
Greg Hay - Talented. Has done very well with the few opportunities he's had, which is very promising. Needs runs on the board, and a few seasons of solid scoring before he comes into the picture.
Aaron Redmond - Scored heavily on some roads last year, isn't really an option. Poor records in all forms of the game, very much a bits and pieces cricketer.
Neil Broom - One of my personal favourites, mainly because he's from Otago Very good batsman I feel, done very well for Otago since he has been here and has a good FC record, by NZ standards. Needs to develop some more consistently, and I think he should be selected for a few 'A' tours.
David Houpapa - Played a couple of good knocks last year, particularly in the Twenty20 competition. As with most of these players, needs a few good seasons of solid scoring under his belt.
Peter Ingram - Not good enough, not by a long way. Doesn't score enough in FC and scores too slowly in OD. One suspects he is only here because he is one of Phlegm's favourites
Bevan Griggs - Big talker, but can't bat to save himself. That said, I like his attitude. Fully prepared to put his heart and soul into a game, doesn't shy down from a bit of confrontation either.
Tim Southee - Don't know too much about him.
Corey Anderson - As with the above.
Richard Sherlock - And again.
Hamish Bennet - Last time.
Bradley Scott - Better OD bowler than James Franklin, and can bat with the same effectiveness. I'd have him around the ODI side, that's for sure.
James McMillan - Shane Bond Mark 2, without as much ability.
Paul Hitchcock - Not good enough. Very good record, but has been tried at ODI level and failed. He's 32 and probably only has a couple years in him, definitely not an option.
Graeme Aldridge - Not a bad bowler by any means, but isn't as effective as a whole host of other seamers that this country has. A FC average of 30 is very poor for a fast bowler in New Zealand, but is an impressive OD bowler, surprised he hasn't been given more chances.
Matthew Harvie - Good Southland lad, but spells his name a stupid way . Has potential, needs to cement a place in the Otago side which will be a tough task in itself, given their bowling stocks. Once he does so we'll be able to assess him better. I'm backing him to be a good bowler though.

 

[Flem274*]

Jesse Ryder - Major attitude problems. One of the most talented batsman in New Zealand, but isn't in the eyes of selectors at this point in time due to his careless nature, being overweight and being lazy. If he sorts those issues out, he could become an international player, but not until Bracewell is sacked as coach.
Rob Nicol - I like him, alot. Very good First Class player, scores runs in a no-frills manner and has been on a few 'A' tours. I'd like to see him scoring more runs for Auckland, putting together big scores, and getting his career average up over 40. Probably not in contention due to being a poor OD player, which is a shame.
Greg Hay - Talented. Has done very well with the few opportunities he's had, which is very promising. Needs runs on the board, and a few seasons of solid scoring before he comes into the picture.
Aaron Redmond - Scored heavily on some roads last year, isn't really an option. Poor records in all forms of the game, very much a bits and pieces cricketer.
Neil Broom - One of my personal favourites, mainly because he's from Otago Very good batsman I feel, done very well for Otago since he has been here and has a good FC record, by NZ standards. Needs to develop some more consistently, and I think he should be selected for a few 'A' tours.
David Houpapa - Played a couple of good knocks last year, particularly in the Twenty20 competition. As with most of these players, needs a few good seasons of solid scoring under his belt.
Peter Ingram - Not good enough, not by a long way. Doesn't score enough in FC and scores too slowly in OD. One suspects he is only here because he is one of Phlegm's favourites
Bevan Griggs - Not a chance. Decent wicket-keeper, adequate batsman for Northern Districts. Behind McCullum and Hopkins in the pecking order, and doesn't seem to have a solid technique to base his batting around.
Tim Southee - Don't know too much about him.
Corey Anderson - As with the above.
Richard Sherlock - And again.
Hamish Bennet - Last time.
Bradley Scott - Better OD bowler than James Franklin, and can bat with the same effectiveness. I'd have him around the ODI side, that's for sure.
James McMillan - Shane Bond Mark 2, without as much ability.
Paul Hitchcock - Not good enough. Very good record, but has been tried at ODI level and failed. He's 32 and probably only has a couple years in him, definitely not an option.
Graeme Aldridge - Not a bad bowler by any means, but isn't as effective as a whole host of other seamers that this country has. A FC average of 30 is very poor for a fast bowler in New Zealand, but is an impressive OD bowler, surprised he hasn't been given more chances.
Matthew Harvie - Good Southland lad, but spells his name a stupid way . Has potential, needs to cement a place in the Otago side which will be a tough task in itself, given their bowling stocks. Once he does so we'll be able to assess him better. I'm backing him to be a good bowler though.

Ingram one of my favourites? Never!

He's still better than How though.

Bevan Griggs is from CD BTW, which makes him an excellent player.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Bevan Griggs - Not a chance. Decent wicket-keeper, adequate batsman for Northern Districts. Behind McCullum and Hopkins in the pecking order, and doesn't seem to have a solid technique to base his batting around.

Are you confusing Griggs with BJ Watling here?? Or just a Central/Northern faux pas?

Can anyone confirm Stu Mills has given up cricket??

I also think you are well overstating Scott's all-round ability. He may be a more reliable bowler than Franklin, but his best ain't as good as Franklin's and has a few k's slower. Franklin's a much better batsman

 

[Perm]

Ingram one of my favourites? Never!

He's still better than How though.

Bevan Griggs is from CD BTW, which makes him an excellent player.

How>Ingram.

Also, yeah it was just a CD/ND mistake. My bad.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

How>Ingram.

Not so sure on that one. If they were the same age then Ingram > How. How may improve, but I doubt it. Pass on and select the next generation... Shanan Stewart anyone??

 

[Perm]

Are you confusing Griggs with BJ Watling here?? Or just a Central/Northern faux pas?

Can anyone confirm Stu Mills has given up cricket??

I also think you are well overstating Scott's all-round ability. He may be a more reliable bowler than Franklin, but his best ain't as good as Franklin's and has a few k's slower. Franklin's a much better batsman

Woops, got Bevan Griggs and Peter McGlashan mixed up. Will evaluate Griggs once I've finished with this post. Not sure about Stu Mills, haven't heard anything, but I don't think he'd ever make it to international level.

Also, regarding Bradley Scott. He is a bit slower than Franklin, but is far more accurate and less likely to get hit around, as he has some good variations. His batting in OD cricket probably isn't as good as Franklin, but he can hit a few.

 

[Flem274*]

Not so sure on that one. If they were the same age then Ingram > How. How may improve, but I doubt it. Pass on and select the next generation... Shanan Stewart anyone??

er, who?

And I have to disagree Perm. Peter Ingram played in the great Francis Douglas Memorial College First XI. Thats the mark of a great player as you should know.

 

[Perm]

Not so sure on that one. If they were the same age then Ingram > How. How may improve, but I doubt it. Pass on and select the next generation... Shanan Stewart anyone??

If they were the same age, maybe. I really don't rate Ingram as a batsman though, just something about him.

Regarding Stewart, I'm quite a fan TBH. Seems consistent in both forms, just needs to put more runs on the board. Would like to see him in the 'A' team.

 

[Perm]

er, who?

Shanan Stewart

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Woops, got Bevan Griggs and Peter McGlashan mixed up. Will evaluate Griggs once I've finished with this post. Not sure about Stu Mills, haven't heard anything, but I don't think he'd ever make it to international level.

Also, regarding Bradley Scott. He is a bit slower than Franklin, but is far more accurate and less likely to get hit around, as he has some good variations. His batting in OD cricket probably isn't as good as Franklin, but he can hit a few.

Haha... Yeah... McGlashan is terrible. I could not believe he got a couple of 20:20 caps last year. Handing out caps like confetti these days.

And your second paragraph is a decent assessment of Scott vs Franklin; certainly at first class, I just feel his lack of pace (versus Franklin) may be shown up at international level. We've had so many bowlers who look great in home conditions, but as soon as they play in Aus or South Africa, the ball just sits up and begs to be hit (c.f. my expectation of Mason and Martin in the forthcoming SAF tour.)

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

If they were the same age, maybe. I really don't rate Ingram as a batsman though, just something about him.

Regarding Stewart, I'm quite a fan TBH. Seems consistent in both forms, just needs to put more runs on the board. Would like to see him in the 'A' team.

Ingram was a different player this year. Takes some stones to come back from being dumped by your team. Not too many players around who'd have come back and played as well as he did.

Spot on with Stewart. Should be ahead of Cumming, James Marshall, How in the A Team pecking order.

 

[Flem274*]

Shanan Stewart

Doesn't look anything special from his record. Never seen him play though. Where does he bat?

 

[Perm]

Doesn't look anything special from his record. Never seen him play though. Where does he bat?

Opens for Canterbury IIRC.

 

[Flem274*]

Opens for Canterbury IIRC.

Well he's 25 now so I suppose the next couple of years will tell us whether he's wanted or not.

 

[Perm]

Ingram was a different player this year. Takes some stones to come back from being dumped by your team. Not too many players around who'd have come back and played as well as he did.

Spot on with Stewart. Should be ahead of Cumming, James Marshall, How in the A Team pecking order.

He did play well, I'm not doubting that. I don't think he'll be able to keep it up though. Seeing as how Cumming is in the Test squad (yet another thing I've got to do tonight *sigh*). He should definitely be ahead of James Marshall, although the selectors seem to have Marshall pencilled in for some sort of leadership role. Not sure about How though.

 

[Perm]

Haha... Yeah... McGlashan is terrible. I could not believe he got a couple of 20:20 caps last year. Handing out caps like confetti these days.

And your second paragraph is a decent assessment of Scott vs Franklin; certainly at first class, I just feel his lack of pace (versus Franklin) may be shown up at international level. We've had so many bowlers who look great in home conditions, but as soon as they play in Aus or South Africa, the ball just sits up and begs to be hit (c.f. my expectation of Mason and Martin in the forthcoming SAF tour.)

Yeah, just a dinky wee player with no technique. Attrocious decision, athough one enforced by Gareth Hopkin's injury and the selectors wanting to play McCullum as a specialist opener.

I agree with Bradley Scott's lack of pace working against him, but I can't see him being a Test option, a format of the game in which that factor would be showed up much more. In limited overs cricket though, I feel Scott's accuracy and variation will prove effective, even on some of the flatter pitches.