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Do You Think These Players Will Play Internationally?
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
NO! Picking bowlers who've taken wickets but been belted all over the place in domestic-OD cricket is a terrible selection policy - almost invariably it results in said bowler failing to take wickets at ODI level and continuing to go all over the park.I'll take your word, but an average of sub 26 in List A surely would be enough to warrant an ODI shirt? As for Tests, even I, a fan of Mahmood scratch my head at such selection (although once selected, he did get played around by selectors, naemly the start of the Ashes series). I wonder why Botham said during the WC, that he would like to see Mahmood play more Tests as opposed to ODIs.
If you want Mahmood to be picked for ODIs surely you also want the AP Davieses, Graham Napiers and Chad Keegans to be picked? Or maybe not...
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Hope so, he deserves a shot.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
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Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Think it's fair to say Bell still hasn't convinced everyone yet, he's still open to accusations of being a flat-track bully to some extent.
He's long since banished nonsense about him being the next Ramprakash and shown he can take rubbish attacks to the cleaners but his output in the India series was disappointing TSTL. He was OK in Australia but no more than that - he made too many single-figure scores and failed to convert big scores into really big ones too often. And he scored runs in Pakistan in 2005\06 (about the only other quality attack he's faced) but that was almost invariably thanks to dropped catches.
I firmly believe and always have done that Bell has it in him to conquer high-calibre attacks, because his dismissals have not conformed to any pattern, it's just been various different silly strokes. He's never been worked-out or anything. Nonetheless, he's yet to do it really.
He's long since banished nonsense about him being the next Ramprakash and shown he can take rubbish attacks to the cleaners but his output in the India series was disappointing TSTL. He was OK in Australia but no more than that - he made too many single-figure scores and failed to convert big scores into really big ones too often. And he scored runs in Pakistan in 2005\06 (about the only other quality attack he's faced) but that was almost invariably thanks to dropped catches.
I firmly believe and always have done that Bell has it in him to conquer high-calibre attacks, because his dismissals have not conformed to any pattern, it's just been various different silly strokes. He's never been worked-out or anything. Nonetheless, he's yet to do it really.
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Agree with that, his home ground is basically a road but I've heard him mentioned as a possible England prospect in the future. He'll have to get established in the all the England A and Lions teams so he can prove himself in some tougher conditions against some more classy opposition.
I think England supporters should be pretty happy with where they are at the moment in terms of batting potential. Ed Joyce and Owais Shah would be the next two in the pecking order IMO if anyone of England's regular middle order batsman was to succumb to injury or woeful form. Then you've got the likes of Trescothick making runs for fun in County Cricket (on a road admittedly, but he seems to be in good touch) and a younger group of players like Ravi Bopara, James Hildreth, Jonathan Trott and Samit Patel who are looking good at FC level. This is before you even consider the young talent of Joe Denly, Billy Godleman, Kyle Coertzer (I think he's trying to qualify), Neil Dexter, Paul Horton and Jim Allenby.
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gettingbetter
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What Richard said.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
IIRR Allenby's a EU-passport player.
vic_orthdox
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Moises just needs a couple of injury free years. Unfortunately, it's not something he's been blessed with over the past 6 or so years.
FaaipDeOiad
Hall of Fame Member
A hell of a lot of seamers struggle with injuries from their late teens through to their early to mid 20s, before they get themselves right physically. Guys like Gillespie, Lee, Watson and Johnson for Australia recently are pretty good examples. Then you've got your Bond's who never get over their troubles, obviously. Hopefully Henriques is just going through some issues like Johnson and will settle in and play some consistent FC cricket in the next few years. We'll not have any idea how good he'll be until then, but he's got heaps of potential.
steds
Hall of Fame Member
Doesn't need to, I think. Hamilton didn't have to.
Pup Clarke
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Prince EWS
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From what I've heard, Huw Waters is indeed pretty highly rated by some high up in terms of England selection. His record is ordinary so far but he's only a kid so he could well get better with time. I wouldn't be selecting him for England A by any means but it wouldn't at all shock me if he was there.Waters?