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Do Great Innings in Defeats Get Rated Unfairly?

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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
It is understandable why great knocks that result in wins get rated higher. But sometimes on great innings lists, those in defeats are almost always absent.

Is this an incorrect standard?

And what would be your top five defeat knocks?
 
BazBall21

BazBall21

International Captain
It's one thing to have a slight bias to innings in winning causes when they had the leading influence. But great knocks in losing causes definitely get a raw deal.
 
Adorable Asshole

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
BazBall21 said:
Of course. One of the big cricket pet peeves. Tendulkar against Pakistan always the first one that comes to mind. Stokes at Lords this year another good example.
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Gavaskar vs Pakistan was better tbh. Chennai pitch wasn't particularly hard for batting.
 
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The Sean

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
Not exhaustive by any means, but five which leap to mind:

Stan McCabe's 187* against Bodyline
Derek Randall's 174 in the Centenary Test
Nathan Astle's 222(168) against England
Kumar Sangakkara's 192 sawn off at Bellerive
Ben Stokes' 155 at Lord's this year
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Interesting stat - of the 11 highest scores in losing causes, 4 took place at Adelaide (including the top 2) and 3 at Melbourne.

Anyway surely Astle’s 222 gotta be up there somewhere.
 
The Sean

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
Also a shout out to two openers I can think of carrying their bats in losing cause epics:

Len Hutton 156* in 1950/51 vs an ATG Australian attack
David Warner 123* vs Doug Bracewell in Hadlee-impersonation mode
 
Slifer

Slifer

International Captain
subshakerz said:
It is understandable why great knocks that result in wins get rated higher. But sometimes on great innings lists, those in defeats are almost always absent.

Is this an incorrect standard?

And what would be your top five defeat knocks?
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5 greatest defeat knocks imo in no particular order:

Sachin 136 vs Pakistan
Lara 221 & 130 vs SL
Ben Stokes 155 2nd test 2023 Ashes
Steve Waugh 63* vs WI '95
Steve Smith 48* vs RSA Bellerive '16

There are obviously more but those 5 come to mind.
 
Adorable Asshole

Adorable Asshole

International Regular
Slifer said:
5 greatest defeat knocks imo in no particular order:

Sachin 136 vs Pakistan
Lara 221 & 130 vs SL
Ben Stokes 155 2nd test 2023 Ashes
Steve Waugh 63* vs WI '95
Steve Smith 48* vs RSA Bellerive '16

There are obviously more but those 5 come to mind.
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No ****ing way are these better than Kohli's 149 & 51 at Birmingham.

Stokes 155 wasn't even all that great. A mixture of bad bowling and some brave slogging.
 
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