karan_fromthestands
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Kapil's 129 vs SA is criminally underrated. This was also with an injured right hand(wrist injury if I am not wrong).
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Do Great Innings in Defeats Get Rated Unfairly?
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_00_deathscar
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Is that the location and date of your last waxing?
TheJediBrah
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Gooch took a real pounding in that series
No, that's a myth. Batting conditions were OK although Waqar and Wasim were getting the ball to reverse big.
Adorable Asshole
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Lmao at that 155 already being overrated. It was just brave but desperate slogging mixed with bad bowling. Great innings but not better than 135.
OverratedSanity
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No way. The 135 was so brilliantly paced, started at snail's pace and then moved through the gears. There were a couple of chances but nowhere as sloggy as the 155.
Nintendo
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Stokes went out their and bombed the Aussies for 6 after 6 after 6 during an entire game of noene on either side being able to score vs the short ball.
GIMH
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The bad bowling came because of his batting, not the other way round.
Adorable Asshole
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No because once they started bowling well after lunch, he immediately got out.
honestbharani
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I was sat with a bunch of England supporters in the British Airways Lounge in London and watched the innings from the time he was in single digits, I think. It was very well constructed, and he started playing some desperate shots only after the situation got desperate and even then, once the target was within reach (less than 50), you could see the method behind the madness.
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I'm really not sure about that. I reckon it applies much more to the 135 where you could see Australia's panic level slowly increasing as he moved through the gears. He never felt as much in control during the other hundred imo.
Nintendo
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They where bowling fine before lunch, stokes just exploited the short boundary. Them applying a better strategy after lunch doesn't mean they bowled **** before lunch.
GIMH
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Completely irrelevant to my point, so I'll address that first. They were bowling really well - the evening before, and then in the morning seeing Duckett off - and then Stokes went after them. They then lost their heads. This is what happened and it's not really debatable. So the idea he only scored the runs because of the bad bowling lacks any credibility, they lost their heads and started bowling poorly precisely because of the pressure he created.
They had bowled 15 overs after lunch, and then he got out. The rate had slowed in the few overs prior but again your narrative is off.
You can not rate it etc, I don't care, but your reasons carry zero credibility I'm afraid.
subshakerz
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Dropped by Smith and then neutralised by wide bowling.
subshakerz
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They did bowl very poorly before lunch, needlessly short.
Nintendo
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And how many times did stokes get dropped/miscue balls into gaps/get lucky in the 135?
subshakerz
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Yeah but he won the game and hitting more freely.