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Dhoni Vs Gilchrist in ODIs.

Dhoni or Gilly, who is the better ODI cricketer?

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Jarquis

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
vic_orthdox said:
Jesus I hate the mathematical bull**** that this forum gets into about not outs, such a waste of time. Once again a case of people on this forum putting numbers ahead of effect on the game


If this is aimed at me, then you should realise that I said next to nothing about not outs themselves and stated that looking at numbers alone is a dreadful way to draw comparisons. Basically all I was discussing was what not outs do - nothing.
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AndyZaltzHair

AndyZaltzHair

Hall of Fame Member
It's possible to make a valid case of advantages and disadvantages for batting opening or lower down the order; the fact remains both positions are job of specialists. Some players just play the new ball well and others play the old ball more effectively, it's a matter of adjustment. Therefore it's better not to argue Gilchrist and Dhoni on average and position. Agree with BFP that they should be compared on how many matches they were responsible for winning or how much value they add to the team.
 
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Ikki

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
Monk said:
Not saying Bevan isn't good, just think he's overhyped as an ODI batsman, largely because of that one game against the WIs (?) when he hit a last ball four to win. Became known as "the finisher" etc etc.
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Bevan is one of the most 'clutch' - to use an american term - performers I've seen across many sports. Big Bevan innings, just in WCs alone:

2nd SF: Australia v West Indies at Mohali, Mar 14, 1996 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against Windies; Aus collapse to 4-15; Bevan comes in and helps add about another 160 and helps Aus win the match. Reminds me of his last ball 4 victory against WIndies in another match - that was incredible too.

16th Match: Australia v Pakistan at Leeds, May 23, 1999 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against Pakistan; Aus fall to 4-101, chasing 276; Bevan helps Aus fightback to 214 without a loss; however not enough as Aus lost by 10 runs.

2nd SF: Australia v South Africa at Birmingham, Jun 17, 1999 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against S.Africa; Aus fall to 4-68. Bevan and Waugh carry the fightback to 158, however Waugh goes. Bevan is left with the tail and takes Aus to a respectable 213. With some magic from Warne and a last ball blunder by Donald; Aus make the final in a thrilling match.

37th Match: Australia v England at Port Elizabeth, Mar 2, 2003 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against England; Aus collapses to 4-48, chasing 204. Bevan comes in and steadies the ship to 111. The next 4 wickets go in a hurry for only 24 runs. Another crisis but Bevan with help from Bichel take 135 to 208, winning the match with 2 balls to spare. An unforgettable match (as all these matches are really).

5th Super: Australia v New Zealand at Port Elizabeth, Mar 11, 2003 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against New Zealand; Aus collapse to a pumped up NZ to an embarressing score of 7/84. Bevan and Bichel once again put on a big partnership taking the score to 208. The Aus bowlers make the NZ bowlers look human and bowl NZ out 112, giving Aus the win.

And look at those attacks: Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop; Wasim, Akhtar, Saqlain; Donald, Pollock, Kallis and Klusener...
 
smash84

smash84

The Tiger King
Ikki said:
Bevan is one of the most 'clutch' - to use an american term - performers I've seen across many sports. Big Bevan innings, just in WCs alone:

2nd SF: Australia v West Indies at Mohali, Mar 14, 1996 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against Windies; Aus collapse to 4-15; Bevan comes in and helps add about another 160 and helps Aus win the match. Reminds me of his last ball 4 victory against WIndies in another match - that was incredible too.

16th Match: Australia v Pakistan at Leeds, May 23, 1999 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against Pakistan; Aus fall to 4-101, chasing 276; Bevan helps Aus fightback to 214 without a loss; however not enough as Aus lost by 10 runs.

2nd SF: Australia v South Africa at Birmingham, Jun 17, 1999 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against S.Africa; Aus fall to 4-68. Bevan and Waugh carry the fightback to 158, however Waugh goes. Bevan is left with the tail and takes Aus to a respectable 213. With some magic from Warne and a last ball blunder by Donald; Aus make the final in a thrilling match.

37th Match: Australia v England at Port Elizabeth, Mar 2, 2003 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against England; Aus collapses to 4-48, chasing 204. Bevan comes in and steadies the ship to 111. The next 4 wickets go in a hurry for only 24 runs. Another crisis but Bevan with help from Bichel take 135 to 208, winning the match with 2 balls to spare. An unforgettable match (as all these matches are really).

5th Super: Australia v New Zealand at Port Elizabeth, Mar 11, 2003 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo - Aus against New Zealand; Aus collapse to a pumped up NZ to an embarressing score of 7/84. Bevan and Bichel once again put on a big partnership taking the score to 208. The Aus bowlers make the NZ bowlers look human and bowl NZ out 112, giving Aus the win.

And look at those attacks: Ambrose, Walsh, Bishop; Wasim, Akhtar, Saqlain; Donald, Pollock, Kallis and Klusener...
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yep, to me, Bevan is the greatest ODI batsman ever
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
Dhoni easily. Outperformed every late middle order batsmen in entire ODI history. Gilly has tough challenge as the best ODI opener (Tendulkar, Anwar, Ganguly), or as all rounder who opens (Jayasuriya, Gayle, Watson).
 
uvelocity

uvelocity

International Coach
tendulkar v gilly :laugh:
anwar v gilly :laugh:
gangfooly v gilly :lol:

jaya v gilly - -gilly
gayle v gilly - gilly by miles
watson v gilly :laugh: :lol:
 
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