Dhoni Vs Gilchrist in ODIs.

[Debris]

Dhoni easily. Outperformed every late middle order batsmen in entire ODI history. Gilly has tough challenge as the best ODI opener (Tendulkar, Anwar, Ganguly), or as all rounder who opens (Jayasuriya, Gayle, Watson).

That is because most decent batsmen don't bat in the lower middle order. And Bevan outperformed Dhoni anyway.

 

[Shri]

No he didn't.

 

[smash84]

Dhoni vs Bevan is very close IMO

*runs off to make a poll

 

[Migara]

That is because most decent batsmen don't bat in the lower middle order. And Bevan outperformed Dhoni anyway.

Don't agree. That's because most of so called good batsmen are appalling when it comes to batting at 6 and 7. And Bevan has not out performed Dhoni as well.

 

[marc71178]

Is Dhoni as far ahead of Gilchrist as his average suggests? Absolutely, if all else equal (batting position has nothing to do with it ). Is Dhoni better than Tendulkar ? If he keeps going for sane length of time as Tendulkar has, why not?

Bigger (and more relevant) question would be if Dhoni were better than Viv.

 

[ankitj]

If he keeps going for another 6-7 years like this and doesn't have a big hole in his record, why not? Those are big ifs though.

 

[DingDong]

dhoni is the more valuable player

 

[watson]

An IPL tonk-a-thon from Gilchrist - 100 in 42 balls

Adam Gilchrist-Fastest IPL century of just 42 balls.. - YouTube

 

[smash84]

If he keeps going for another 6-7 years like this and doesn't have a big hole in his record, why not? Those are big ifs though.

yeah.........fair point I suppose

 

[Burgey]

Completely different players ffs. It's like asking who is better out of McGrath and Murali. Sure they both bowl, but they do it at different times, in different ways and fulfill different roles entirely.

 

[Senile Sentry]

Completely different players ffs. It's like asking who is better out of McGrath and Murali. Sure they both bowl, but they do it at different times, in different ways and fulfill different roles entirely.

Agree with this.

 

[ankitj]

Completely different players ffs. It's like asking who is better out of McGrath and Murali. Sure they both bowl, but they do it at different times, in different ways and fulfill different roles entirely.

The comparison arises from the fact that they are both contenders for wicket keeper's position in an all time XI. That should have been easy to understand. There is a reason why there is no thread for Dhoni vs Jayasuriya.

 

[Debris]

Don't agree. That's because most of so called good batsmen are appalling when it comes to batting at 6 and 7. And Bevan has not out performed Dhoni as well.

Well, I see a separate thread and poll has been opened to answer the Bevan question. One thing I think is forgotten here is the quality of the bowling that Bevan faced for most of his career.

I am not even sure I take Dhoni over Michael Hussey who has a very similar record. And are you calling Tendulkar or Ponting, say, a "so called good batsman" because they did not bat at 6. Pretty sure they were pretty good finishers when called on to do it.

 

[Senile Sentry]

The comparison arises from the fact that they are both contenders for wicket keeper's position in an all time XI. That should have been easy to understand. There is a reason why there is no thread for Dhoni vs Jayasuriya.

Easy one then, There are better openers than Gilchrist but not many good finishers than Dhoni.

 

[smash84]

Easy one then, There are better openers than Gilchrist but not many good finishers than Dhoni.

yep...basically boils down to this

 

[Faizal Khan]

Dhoni.

Dhoni is a contender for best ODI batsman ever along with Bevan, Viv, SRT. Gilchrist doesn't even come in the top 10.

 

[Burgey]

The comparison arises from the fact that they are both contenders for wicket keeper's position in an all time XI. That should have been easy to understand. There is a reason why there is no thread for Dhoni vs Jayasuriya.

It's an odious comparison though. If that's the case pick them on their keeping abilities.

They're both fine exponents in their respective batting positions, but there are others in contentions in both roles. Gilchrist was a better keeper than Dhoni though.

 

[Burgey]

Easy one then, There are better openers than Gilchrist but not many good finishers than Dhoni.

There are a lot better ODI keepers than Dhoni though.

 

[Faizal Khan]

There are a lot better ODI keepers than Dhoni though.

Although their batting is far far below Dhoni's or Gilchrist's for that matter.
Dhoni is no Kamran Akmal with the gloves.

 

[honestbharani]

There are a lot better ODI keepers than Dhoni though.

Not against spin, no way..