CW Test Rankings - Updated Jan 2012

[marc71178]

yeah well done guys. the teams there are exactly as they should be....unlike that damned ICC table.:!(

Erm, the ICC table is exactly the same as Neil, except SL and Pakistan are swapped...

 

[Mr. P]

I'm sorry marc, but the ICC table has made many mistakes. And i think that swapping SL and Pakistan IS a difference, unless for some brilliant reason it is not.

 

[marc71178]

I'm sorry marc, but the ICC table has made many mistakes. And i think that swapping SL and Pakistan IS a difference, unless for some brilliant reason it is not.

You all but said Neil's is so much better, yet at the end of the day there is one tiny difference (and looking at them it is debateable who is better out of the 2 anyway)

 

[Neil Pickup]

Yes, but I did mine first :P

Points Comparisons: ICC (Mine/10)

1 Australia 129 (153)
2 South Africa 116 (114)
3 New Zealand 106 (99)
4 England 104 (97)
5 India 94 (82)
6 Pakistan 92 (74)
7 Sri Lanka 91 (75)
8 West Indies 83 (57)
9 Zimbabwe 58 (27)
10 Bangladesh 0 (2)

The major issue is spread.

 

[Bazza]

Neil I think I asked before but can't remember what you said - any chance of knocking up a one day rating?

 

[Neil Pickup]

Not one that would make any sense, as this is based on splitting series results and ODIs generate the minor problem of tri-series and international tournaments which Tests aren't affected by.

 

[Bazza]

Is there no way around it though? There must be a better method than giving a team 40 points for a win, blah blah blah....

 

[Tim]

Now that NZ have drawn in India, the ICC Rankings will apparently allow England to move into 3rd should they beat Bangladesh 2-0 & thats almost a certainty.

Will the same thing happen under the Pickup Rankings?

I read at the rediff.com rankings (Indian site) that even if England beat Bangladesh, they still rate NZ ahead of England.

 

[Neil Pickup]

The thing that it's most likely to do under the Pickup rankings is to give New Zealand a massive shot in the arm and give them 30/40 extra points and bring South Africa into range, possible for overtaking them should the Proteas lose the Pakistan series.

The Bangladesh series will reduce the England average by approx 20/30 (see previous posts for reasoning) and keep them in a solid fourth.

 

[anzac]

The thing that it's most likely to do under the Pickup rankings is to give New Zealand a massive shot in the arm and give them 30/40 extra points and bring South Africa into range, possible for overtaking them should the Proteas lose the Pakistan series.

The Bangladesh series will reduce the England average by approx 20/30 (see previous posts for reasoning) and keep them in a solid fourth.

prophetic words......

 

[Neil Pickup]

Update - 02.11 .03 - NZ Close but no Cigar

HOME TABLE
1 Australia 1246
2 South Africa 1101
3 India 941
4 West Indies 907
5 (+1) Sri Lanka 845
6 (-1) England 826
7 New Zealand 768
8 Pakistan 644
9 Zimbabwe 356
10 Bangladesh 33

Sri Lanka's efforts in holding New Zealand are rewarded, so highly are the Kiwis rated away from home.

AWAY TABLE
1 Australia 1761
2 New Zealand 1308
3 South Africa 1091
4 England 1005
5 Pakistan 919
6 India 639
7 Sri Lanka 637
8 West Indies 260
9 Zimbabwe 190
10 Bangladesh 0

No changes, except in value - NZ hitting 1300+ for the first time.

OVERALL TABLE
1 Australia 1487 (-42)
2 South Africa 1096 (-41)
3 New Zealand 1022 (+28)
4 England 921 (-46)
5 India 800 (-16)
6 +1 Pakistan 789 (+54)
7 -1 Sri Lanka 754 (+3)
8 West Indies 565 (-2)
9 Zimbabwe 268 (-5)
10 Bangladesh 15 (-4)

The table continues to correct itself as more of the possible matchings are played out. As well as the obvious reductions in England and Australia's scores, the big winners are Pakistan, whose excellent win against South Africa also dents the Proteas. New Zealand cut the gap between themselves and second place from 143 to 74 thanks to their draw in India, who themselves are within range of improving Pakistan.

 

[gibbsnsmith]

where do you find time for this?

 

[Mr. P]

Re: Update - 02.11 .03 - NZ Close but no Cigar

HOME TABLE
1 Australia 1246
2 South Africa 1101
3 India 941
4 West Indies 907
5 (+1) Sri Lanka 845
6 (-1) England 826
7 New Zealand 768
8 Pakistan 644
9 Zimbabwe 356
10 Bangladesh 33

Sri Lanka's efforts in holding New Zealand are rewarded, so highly are the Kiwis rated away from home.

AWAY TABLE
1 Australia 1761
2 New Zealand 1308
3 South Africa 1091
4 England 1005
5 Pakistan 919
6 India 639
7 Sri Lanka 637
8 West Indies 260
9 Zimbabwe 190
10 Bangladesh 0

No changes, except in value - NZ hitting 1300+ for the first time.

OVERALL TABLE
1 Australia 1487 (-42)
2 South Africa 1096 (-41)
3 New Zealand 1022 (+28)
4 England 921 (-46)
5 India 800 (-16)
6 +1 Pakistan 789 (+54)
7 -1 Sri Lanka 754 (+3)
8 West Indies 565 (-2)
9 Zimbabwe 268 (-5)
10 Bangladesh 15 (-4)

The table continues to correct itself as more of the possible matchings are played out. As well as the obvious reductions in England and Australia's scores, the big winners are Pakistan, whose excellent win against South Africa also dents the Proteas. New Zealand cut the gap between themselves and second place from 143 to 74 thanks to their draw in India, who themselves are within range of improving Pakistan.

Thats good neil, except i think you mean NZ have hit 1000+ for the first time mate.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Re: Re: Update - 02.11 .03 - NZ Close but no Cigar

Thats good neil, except i think you mean NZ have hit 1000+ for the first time mate.

Nope, I mean 1300+ as that comment was based on the Away Ranking :P

Jay, it takes very little time to update if you can write spreadsheets to do it for you. 8D

 

[Mr. P]

Re: Re: Re: Update - 02.11 .03 - NZ Close but no Cigar

Nope, I mean 1300+ as that comment was based on the Away Ranking :P

Jay, it takes very little time to update if you can write spreadsheets to do it for you. 8D

Oh ok i have a thing for missing stuff like that, thanks.:P

 

[gibbsnsmith]

Re: Re: Re: Update - 02.11 .03 - NZ Close but no Cigar

Nope, I mean 1300+ as that comment was based on the Away Ranking :P

Jay, it takes very little time to update if you can write spreadsheets to do it for you. 8D

that is just a terrible exploitation of that smilie...

 

[Neil Pickup]

Rankings Unchanged after West Indies in Zimbabwe, by the way.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Home Rankings
1 Australia 1192
2 South Africa 1127
3 India 935
4 +1 Sri Lanka 932 1
5 -1 West Indies 926 -1
6 England 851
7 New Zealand 737
8 Pakistan 638
9 Zimbabwe 365
10 Bangladesh 33

Sri Lanka's revenge over England allows them to overtake the West Indies, and with both 3rd and 4th place sides Hosting Australia soon, a lot can change soon. South Africa, meanwhile, are within touching distance of Australia.

Away Rankings
1 Australia 1753
2 New Zealand 1301
3 South Africa 1091
4 +1 Pakistan 1001
5 -1 England 902
6 India 889
7 Sri Lanka 637
8 West Indies 260
9 Zimbabwe 190
10 Bangladesh 0

The combination of Pakistan's Shoaib-inspired victory in New Zealand and England's disappointing defeat in Sri Lanka allows the two sides to swap in 4th and 5th places. India gain a massive 250 points thanks to their brilliant displays in Australia.

Overall Rankings
OVERALL TABLE
1 Australia 1454 (-33)
2 South Africa 1109 (+13)
3 New Zealand 1002 (-20)
4 +1 India 914 (+114)
5 -1 England 878 (-43)
6 Pakistan 830 (+41)
7 Sri Lanka 803 (+49)
8 West Indies 573 (+8)
9 Zimbabwe 272 (+4)
10 Bangladesh 15 (n/c)

India take 157 points out of England, reflecting the two nations' contrasting fortunes over the last couple of months. Pakistan and Sri Lanka both catch England as the West Indies are left behind. Australia's lowest ever total lets South Africa close the gap by 46 to 345 points, whilst New Zealand are within range of much more of the chasing pack than they have been recently.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Happy 1st Birthday to Neil Pickup/CricketWeb Test Rankings!

 

[FRAZ]

Happy 1st Birthday to Neil Pickup/CricketWeb Test Rankings!

Happy birthday ,