Curtly Ambrose vs Viv Richards

[DrWolverine]

What about footballer vs cricketer in the future in general sports area

Bradman vs Messi/Pele
Bradman wins

 

[DrWolverine]

You see, Hutton........

Great batsman
Lara is better

 

[DrWolverine]

Ambrose did not play much matches in Asia in test.Like Ntini he is a dangerous player in SENA countries but not much outside of that

This has to be the most controversial opinion in recent times

 

[Johan]

Great batsman
Lara is better

will give it to Hutton. Opener, in England, played a chunk in 50s, averaged 60 at the age of 39 and near the end of his career and so forth.

 

[DrWolverine]

will give it to Hutton. Opener, in England, played a chunk in 50s, averaged 60 at the age of 39 and near the end of his career and so forth.

There is marginal difference between the top 7-8 batsmen. A big reason I would rate Lara or modern day batsmen ahead is because they faced better bowlers.

 

[Johan]

There is marginal difference between the top 7-8 batsmen. A big reason I would rate Lara or modern day batsmen ahead is because they faced better bowlers.

Hutton faced Elite ATG attacks over and over in bowler friendly condition and kept suceeding.Bowler argument is probably in Hutton's favour.

 

[Coronis]

Bradman vs Messi/Pele
Bradman wins

Bradman wins vs anyone

 

[capt_Luffy]

Hutton faced Elite ATG attacks over and over in bowler friendly condition and kept suceeding.Bowler argument is probably in Hutton's favour.

Nah. Hutton faced only two ATG bowlers, Lindwall and O'Reilly, with some amount of Grum probably early on. Conditions is in his favour, and the 50s Aussie attack was Great, but he didn't play against closely as many ATG bowlers Lara did.

 

[Johan]

Nah. Hutton faced only two ATG bowlers, Lindwall and O'Reilly, with some amount of Grum probably early on. Conditions is in his favour, and the 50s Aussie attack was Great, but he didn't play against closely as many ATG bowlers Lara did.

I mainly said attack for a reason, sometimes the attack of Lindwall/Miller/Johnston is more impressive to score against then an attack of Hadlee/Chatfield/Cairns, you can guess why.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I mainly said attack for a reason, sometimes the attack of Lindwall/Miller/Johnston is more impressive to score against then an attack of Hadlee/Chatfield/Cairns, you can guess why.

Agreed, but a single attack it was. Next best was WI with Ramadhin and Valentine. Lara faced Wasim-Waqar-Saqlain vs Pakistan, McGrath-Warne-Gillespie-MacGill vs Australia, Donald-Pollock-de Villiers-Ntini (and generally a few more pretty good pacers) vs SA, Murali and Vaas vs SL, etc.

 

[Johan]

Agreed, but a single attack it was. Next best was WI with Ramadhin and Valentine. Lara faced Wasim-Waqar-Saqlain vs Pakistan, McGrath-Warne-Gillespie-MacGill vs Australia, Donald-Pollock-de Villiers-Ntini (and generally a few more pretty good pacers) vs SA, Murali and Vaas vs SL, etc.

in bowling conditions, he really only performed against the highlighted one, I think Hutton's post-war aus stuff is more impressive tbh

 

[capt_Luffy]

in bowling conditions, he really only performed against the highlighted one, I think Hutton's post-war aus stuff is more impressive tbh

Frankly, I don't think anything is as impressive as Lara 99 vs Australia and 2001 vs SL.

 

[kyear2]

Viv and Waqar is a poor comparison. Waqar tailed off too soon.

Very poor.

 

[kyear2]

I don't think Waqar was the GOAT bowler at his peak

Not even close.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Viv easily..

Its like comparing Marshall and Ponting.

 

[Fanboy375]

will give it to Hutton. Opener, in England, played a chunk in 50s, averaged 60 at the age of 39 and near the end of his career and so forth.

50s batting pitch had problem.Ave good in that era means a lot for batsman

 

[kyear2]

I like that.

So what does that mean?

 

[kyear2]

You see, Hutton........

I have Hutton literally one place below Lara. He just didn't dominate like he should have.

 

[kyear2]

He didn't even played in Ind in test unlike other great bowlers

So basically let's not rate him on where he played and dominated, but where he didn't because of injury?

 

[kyear2]

There is marginal difference between the top 7-8 batsmen. A big reason I would rate Lara or modern day batsmen ahead is because they faced better bowlers.

Yeah, my top 8/ 9 is really close as well.

And this isn't to say that Hutton didn't face great bowlers, there was O'Reilly before the war, Lindwall and Miller and Ramadhin and Valentine after and a small bit of early Davidson and Benaud.