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Can you beat for the cricket guru title?

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
A hint is supposed to make a question easy. Not bamboozle every one!
It stops people from looking at those bowlers , like Syd Barnes, who have some bowling records and think lateraly :p
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Albert Trott - Records in First Class Cricket - 4 wickets in 4 balls, 2 hat tricks in same innings , 2 hat tricks in same Match, taking all 10 wickets in an innings !!
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
JASON said:
Albert Trott - Records in First Class Cricket - 4 wickets in 4 balls, 2 hat tricks in same innings , 2 hat tricks in same Match, taking all 10 wickets in an innings !!
Regardless of whether its right or worng who is Alex Trott?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
JASON said:
Albert Trott - Records in First Class Cricket - 4 wickets in 4 balls, 2 hat tricks in same innings , 2 hat tricks in same Match, taking all 10 wickets in an innings !!
....NO

I said his records have nothing to do with bowling. :sleep:
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Pratyush said:
Regardless of whether its right or worng who is Alex Trott?
From 'The Cricketer'

Rumbustious, ill-fated Albert Trott of Victoria, Australia, Middlesex and England was born 100 years ago on February 6, but the centenary passed all but unnoticed. This is not entirely surprising since Trott, who created many a vivid memory for opponents and spectators alike, was apt to be forgotten when it mattered most. The Australian selectors forgot him - or ignored him - when they picked their team for England in 1896, though only a year earlier he had burst into Test cricket with unparalleled force. He so far forgot himself in his benefit match in 1907 that he took four wickets in four balls and then the hat-trick, winding up proceedings foolishly early at a time when people were prepared to roll up in their thousands to pay cash tribute to a stalwart of county cricket - as long as the match lasted. And the forlorn, untended mound which is his grave at Willesden is the decisive pointer to the final neglect into which Albert Trott's name was to fall. His brother, G. H. S. (Harry), was already a powerful influence in Australian cricket when young Albert was given his colours and played in the last three Tests in Australia in 1894-95. He took 8 for 43 and scored 38 and 72, both not out, at Adelaide. At Sydney he batted only once and made 85, again undefeated; oddly, this time he had no chance to bowl. Then in the series climax at Melbourne his figures were rationalised with ten for twice out and one wicket for plenty. Still he stands highest in the batting averages for Australia v England with 1025. And some would argue that this is not altogether such a freak or exaggeration as it seems. Whatever his loss of form in the next year, he should have been in Harry Trott's side to England; but he was not, and we shall never know the real reason. Instead, he came independently, encouraged by Jim Phillips, the umpire/talent scout; Middlesex were soon to be grateful. In 1899, the year he hit M. A. Noble over the Lord's pavilion, he passed 1000 runs and took 239 wickets. In 1900 he did much the same, and was acknowledged as just about the finest allround cricketer on earth. His batting was powerful, boisterous, and never quite as dependable after the monstrous blow off Noble. His massive hands held practically everything within reach. And his bowling, slung with a round-arm delivery, contained most of the arts. Warning against his fast ball was seldom sufficient insurance, and his slower ball had batsmen fanning at air. He actually played for England - on the tour of South Africa in 1898-99, when he left his mark with 17 wickets at less than twelve apiece in the two Test matches; but as the seasons went by, his body spread under the effects of ale - often taken along the boundary from admiring spectators - and from dropsy, which also induced melancholia. He became an umpire in 1910, but by 1914, living alone in digs, `Albatrott' had had enough. He wrote a will on the back of a laundry ticket, leaving his wardrobe and £4 in cash to the landlady. Then he shot himself. We are now passing through years that are dotted with centenaries of Golden Age cricketers. None of them was remotely comparable to Albert Edwin Trott.
David Frith, The Cricketer, March 1973
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
SJS said:
....NO

I said his records have nothing to do with bowling. :sleep:
SJS - this question is not getting anywhere - so clues may help !! Otherwise (forgive me for saying so ) we are stuck in this vague question !! Which should have been on SJS Trivia !

Were his records batting records ?

Are they Test records ?

Is he English ?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
JASON said:
SJS - this question is not getting anywhere - so clues may help !! Otherwise (forgive me for saying so ) we are stuck in this vague question !! Which should have been on SJS Trivia !

Were his records batting records ?

Are they Test records ?

Is he English ?
The records have nothing to do with what he did on the field of play !!
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Bowlers with low bowling average (50 or more wickets 1877-1999) :-

Lohmann - ruled out
JJ Ferris
W Barnes
W Bates
SF Barnes
CTB Turner
R Peel
J Briggs
H Ironmonger
FR Spofforth
F Tyson
C Blythe

All these have averages below 20.
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Pratyush said:
Bowlers with low bowling average (50 or more wickets 1877-1999) :-

Lohmann - ruled out
JJ Ferris
W Barnes
W Bates
SF Barnes
CTB Turner
R Peel
J Briggs
H Ironmonger
FR Spofforth
F Tyson
C Blythe

All these have averages below 20.
Who said he had 50 test wickets :p
 

The Baconator

International Vice-Captain
Low Bowling Ave. - Absolute
Players Ct Ball Md Runs Wkt Ave.
BAG Murray
NZ 6 1 0 1 0.00
W Barber
E 2 0 0 1 0.00
AN Hornby
E 28 7 0 1 0.00
PD Lashley
WI 18 2 1 1 1.00
Azhar Khan
P 18 1 2 1 2.00
AJL Hill
E 40 4 8 4 2.00
RM Poore
SA 9 0 4 1 4.00
A Lyttelton
E 48 5 19 4 4.75
CB Lambert
WI 10 0 5 1 5.00
S Amarnath
I 11 0 5 1 5.00


Is it one of these people with very low bowling averages?
 

JASON

Cricketer Of The Year
Charles Aubrey Smith :mellow:

Test Career Bowling (1888/89)
Balls Mdns Runs Wkts BB Ave 5wI 10wM SRate Econ
England 154 16 61 7 5-19 8.71 1 0 22.00 2.37


Still working on records !! :sleep:
 

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