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Bevan's international career is over?

Craig

World Traveller
But what people are forgetting is that this could have a good effect that the team could still win and play better. Case in point: Steve Waugh.

Everybody (being generalistic) thought the Steve Waugh axing was harsh and look at them now?
 

bennyr

U19 12th Man
Linda said:
It would be good to see Bevan's stats for the last couple of years. The selectors are saying his input has decreased, and thats a fair analysis as far as Im concerned, and a good enough reason not give someone a contract. There is far too much uncontracted talent not too.
It's a good reason if his input was marginal in the first place, but not if, as is the case, he was contributing more than anyone else to the side up until recently. Bevan's contribution to the side has not slipped to the extent that he is not pulling his weight.

Bevan has averaged 34.25 in his last 10 ODI's, and 40.61 in his last 20. These figures aren't great, but they ain't awful either, especially when you consider he has been coming in down the order.
 

Andre

International Regular
2 big factors in the Bevan decision IMO - he's a liability in the field (his shoulder is bug to the extent where he can't throw with any force) and he can't bowl (see brackets: point 1).

These are both important for a middle order bat in ODI cricket, and when you're struggling for this and runs, your in trouble.

Also, I think it would have been down to Lehmann and Bevan head-to-head for the final batting place in the ODI XI, and Boof gets that job comfortably.
 
I agree with Andre, Bevan might not be completely useless, but think of it as company downsizing; he's not needed anymore and his job can be done by younger people.

Having remembered some things from various people in high places, I think the selectors and Ricky Ponting want to give Shane Watson a go to see if he's up to it now. The best way to get him in is to get a lower order bat out. That's where Bevan bats these days and Watto this season looked better than Bevan (I know intenational and domestic are different but it was a significant gap I think). Come on Watto.
 

mavric41

State Vice-Captain
Bevan used to be a match winner. It was obvious from his performances during the Australian summer that he has lost his touch. Everyone gets old and useless. Its a fact of life.

I thought it was a shame for Andrew Bichel. While waiting so long on the periferry (?) whilst Brett Lee was given chance after chance, he was discarded when a real opportunity presented itself. Still it was good that Kaspa was selected after the failed experimnets of Bracken and Williams.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
mavric41 said:
Bevan used to be a match winner. It was obvious from his performances during the Australian summer that he has lost his touch. Everyone gets old and useless. Its a fact of life.

I thought it was a shame for Andrew Bichel. While waiting so long on the periferry (?) whilst Brett Lee was given chance after chance, he was discarded when a real opportunity presented itself. Still it was good that Kaspa was selected after the failed experimnets of Bracken and Williams.
used to be??the fact is that he was instrumental in the success of the 03 wc and played some crucial knocks in the tri series in india. since then he has been batting at no 7 and u dont expect him to be much of a match winner there do u? one bad series with the bat and hes dropped?well then howcome martyn who also struggled and clarke?
 

Ford_GTHO351

U19 Vice-Captain
Bevan's 2004 ODI Record with the bat:

12 matches, 278@27.80, SR: 74.93

Now thats not the best start to 2004 by Bevan's high standards. But people are forgeting that he did suffer from an injury during the VB Series. So that should not count against him.

Ok, he didn't have a great time in Sri Lanka, but every cricketer is going to have an off series, even great players like Bevan.

Bevan should of had at least the opportunity to prove himself in Zimbabwe. He should of not been dropped, let alone lose his CA Contract.
 

Ford_GTHO351

U19 Vice-Captain
Linda said:
It would be good to see Bevan's stats for the last couple of years.
Bevan's ODI batting stats as of 2002:

68 Matches
51 Innings
16 Not Outs
1528 Runs@43.65
1 Century
10 Half-Century's
2 Ducks

They are still pretty good IMO.

Bevan should not have been dropped!
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
It just shows the huge amount of player resource Australia has. No other nation in the world could dare drop Bevan out of a top 25, let alone a first eleven. Definitely an eyebrow raiser, this one... but I think people are right when they say that they have to make room for younger players, who, as Australia will probably show, are able to pull off the same average as Bevan does.

...

Bastards.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Loony BoB said:
It just shows the huge amount of player resource Australia has. No other nation in the world could dare drop Bevan out of a top 25, let alone a first eleven. Definitely an eyebrow raiser, this one... but I think people are right when they say that they have to make room for younger players, who, as Australia will probably show, are able to pull off the same average as Bevan does.

...

Bastards.
highly unlikely and even if someone does start of with a high average he would struggle to keep it up on the slower wickets of the sub continent as bevan successfully did.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Ford_GTHO351 said:
That is disgraceful that they had not given Michael Bevan a contract!

not really, for mine, his preformance hass dropped alot of late in the ODI games.


what surprised me is that Maher retained his contract... i would have thought North would have been a better option ith the bat... in the selectors look to the future attitudes anyway...
 

Bapu Rao Swami

U19 12th Man
He was a very consistent bat (bevan) and bichel was for a while australia's own shauwn pollock...

I think it was good they were dropped, bevan just lost it post worldcup..i was shocked to see teh way he scored his runs, all his shots depended on that flick(while earlier he was more atheletic and could rotate 360 at the crease and hit a shot behind point while all the fileders would look in awe). bevan had the reputation of the best non asian bat on slow asian pitches, he use to be simply perfect...but if i were an australian selecter, i too would have dropped him...a downhill in his avgs was very obvious (and why wait the hardwork of yrs in collecting that avg drop).

look at his ODI stats and the nature in which he got them - the guy was simply the best man for the job and will always always be remembered for his coolheadedness...if you've read sachin tendulkar's biography you'll know what i mean. Its time he stepped down, Bevan is a bat of such calibre that the team should be made around him like it was earleier but that no longer seems so.


having him in the ODI squad is a waste of time and place, he comes in to bat at no 7 behind clarke and symonds ahead of harvey and thats almost laughable. because all teh players around can offer something at the table besides being a bat, apart from bevan.

but anyway life goes on i think in australia one needs to kick players out or else they won't ever leave (eg. mark waugh).





farwell bevan and you too bichel!

ps. its a very courageous decision by the selectors, so i won't criticise them.
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Amazing stuff from the aussies... jeesus id rather have Bevan coming in to win me a tight game than Clarke.....

It sounds like they are bored of dominating the world and want to try some new ideas... amazing....

Saying that, his replacement will probably do just as well eventually, such is the depth of talent...
 

Baggygreen

Cricket Spectator
Bye Bye Bevan BOUT BLOODY TIME!!
He isn't a finisher he is a selfish player who bats for his average and i for one am glad he is gone.....good riddance.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
There is no truth in the rumour that the selectors got this idea from me retiring him in WCC the other week.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Baggygreen said:
Bye Bye Bevan BOUT BLOODY TIME!!
He isn't a finisher he is a selfish player who bats for his average and i for one am glad he is gone.....good riddance.
bevan isnt a finisher??good god hes the best finisher the game has ever seen.
ive seen players play for 100s ,50s ,top scores but ive never seen anyone playing for his average
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Baggygreen said:
Bye Bye Bevan BOUT BLOODY TIME!!
He isn't a finisher he is a selfish player who bats for his average and i for one am glad he is gone.....good riddance.

Hahaha, ive heard it all now :lol:
 

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Dropping Bevan is a huge mistake IMO.

He may not have had the best of 2004's - but look at his stats since the start of 2003 - hardly poor.
 

Rich2001

International Captain
If part of the talk comming out of Kent is true, about who might replace Symo if selected, Rich would like to thank the chaps at the ACB for their actions ;) :D

Now just need them to do the same for Blewy and India to have a change of heart and drop VVS Laxman for a few months :D
 

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