Battle of the Test captains

[bagapath]

Braddles, the boy from Bowral

 

[silentstriker]

Bradman

 

[nightprowler10]

The Don.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Don Bradman

 

[Anil]

bradman

 

[GIMH]

bradman

 

[BoyBrumby]

Woodfull for mine. When you think 4 of his defeats were in 32/33 his record suddenly looks a lot better. A dignified man who twice regained the urn over here. Bradman was possibly too one-eyed to be a genuinely great captain; in fact many of Australia's Irish Catholic players bonded with Jardine over their common dislike of The Little *******.

 

[Fusion]

Bradman

 

[Goughy]

Woodfull for mine. When you think 4 of his defeats were in 32/33 his record suddenly looks a lot better. A dignified man who twice regained the urn over here. Bradman was possibly too one-eyed to be a genuinely great captain; in fact many of Australia's Irish Catholic players bonded with Jardine over their common dislike of The Little *******.

I agree with all you say. The religious issues within the Aussie team were considerable and the Dons desire for financial stability caused waves.

However, despite it all Bradman held it together and was successful purely based on the weight of his considerable batting talent.

For a man to be disliked by so many other influential players and former players but still bind them together into winners is impressive.

The Don

 

[Beleg]

I'm also curious as to why Beleg voted for Pollock over Imran...

I think Pollock is highly underrated as a captain. He took over the captaincy at a trying time and captained the SA admirably. He deserved more then a single vote. My vote is basically a reflection of my respect for Pollock as a person, player and leader of men.

Imran Khan, for all his obvious virtues, was a controversial figure who adopted the hard line way too often for my liking. He was a dictatorial figure with egoistic tendencies and wasn't really a team-player as such.

I haven't seen many instances of Imran Khan captaining, apart from the 92 world cup, so I honestly cannot judge his on-field merits, but I fear that that his general charisma, his success in the world cup and against WI created a larger then life image which paints him in a much more saintly light then is justified. Younis Khan is getting a lot of flak for refusing to be an interim captain and his decision is hardly any different from imran khan's policy of picking and choosing tours.

For the record, I do not agree with silentstriker's theory of winning = better captain since the role of the captain, while diminished to an extent in the mordern era is more then mere win or loss; among other reasons of course.

 

[FRAZ]

I think Pollock is highly underrated as a captain..

I totaly agree with you on this !

 

[aussie]

Bradman

 

[Dydl]

The Don

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Imran Khan, for all his obvious virtues, was a controversial figure who adopted the hard line way too often for my liking. He was a dictatorial figure with egoistic tendencies and wasn't really a team-player as such.

Absolutely rubbish.BTW,are u Javed Miandad in disguise? Only he can make such outlandish statements.

I haven't seen many instances of Imran Khan captaining, apart from the 92 world cup, so I honestly cannot judge his on-field merits, but I fear that that his general charisma, his success in the world cup and against WI created a larger then life image which paints him in a much more saintly light then is justified. Younis Khan is getting a lot of flak for refusing to be an interim captain and his decision is hardly any different from imran khan's policy of picking and choosing tours.

Rubbish.Imran was an active,smart,aggessive leader & a true team-player.And as far as choosing & picking tours is concerned,Akram & some others also did the same in later stages of their careers.So,do u expect a genuine fast bowler(35+ years old) to play in every test/ODI & give his 100%?If u do,then u r a true idiot.How many genuine fast bowlers can u mention from history who kept on playing till their 40s? [/QUOTE]

 

[Pratters]

I was just watching the Legends of cricket program a few days ago (it is available on you tube along with other episodes) and so will refer a bit to it. A lot of people talk on his captaincy including Benaud and Akram. Benaud mentions how he was one of the few captains in Pakistan cricket history who could order others to do things and they would listen. Wasim Akram and Ramiz Raja state on the positive frame of mind Imran always inclulcated reinforcing always that they could win from any position.

Pakistan did win the test series in England and also came close to defeating the West Indies in their prime. Pakistan were one team which at least competed against the Windies in that dominant era. Over all, Imran had a very strong persona and was a psychologically strong individual which reflected on his team. A lot of the fighting spirit and agressiveness we have seen in Pakistan in the 90s have their roots in Imran Khan.

Imran Khan was a superb captain whom many regard the greatest in Pakistan cricket history. Pollock had the makings of a good captain before his time was cut short. Both aren't comparable as far as I am concerned.

 

[Perm]

The Don moves to the next round with a 17-3 win.

Round 1, Battle 13

Ricky Ponting

Test: 30 Matches, 22 Wins, 3 Losses. Winning Percentage: 73%

vs

Clive Lloyd

Test: 74 Matches, 36 Wins, 12 Losses. Winning Percentage: 48%

Voting will last 24 hours.

 

[oz_fan]

Clive Lloyd

 

[Goughy]

That winning %age for Lloyd is interesting. I think we underestimate how good and dominating this Aussie team has been for the past decade and a bit.

However, Lloyd created the WI fast bowling monster and applied sound logic of not picking a spinner when there are quick bowlers that are more effectvie.

Lloyd

 

[Pratters]

CH Lloyd.

 

[Natman20]

Lloyd