• Welcome to the Cricket Web forums, one of the biggest forums in the world dedicated to cricket.

    You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Cricket Web community today!

    If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Battle of the Subcontinent

Fusion

Global Moderator
I'm rather surprised by the thumping that Ganguly is getting here. While I have the utmost respect for the legendary Merchant, surely Ganguly achieved more for Indian cricket? I mean we are grading these players as a whole right? That means you take into account Ganguly's captaincy. The man was a vital reason that India were considered second only to the great Australian dynasty in the late 90's and onwards.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Fusion said:
I'm rather surprised by the thumping that Ganguly is getting here. While I have the utmost respect for the legendary Merchant, surely Ganguly achieved more for Indian cricket? I mean we are grading these players as a whole right? That means you take into account Ganguly's captaincy. The man was a vital reason that India were considered second only to the great Australian dynasty in the late 90's and onwards.
Merchant is arguably the best opener in Indian history. He didn't get many chances, so you can't rate him above players who played more but a lot of people who watched him say he was better than Gavaskar.

But, in the end, he is in the same boat as Barry Richards. He may have been great, but through no fault of his own, he just never had enough of an opportunity to prove it.
 
Last edited:

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
FaaipDeOiad said:
Surely everyone should have their FC record included if Merchant does?

Anyway, it's Merchant for me.
We decided to include FC records for subcontinent players pre-WWII just because they did not play many tests. I am iffy on doing this as I think Test criteria is what matters most. If people don't like it, I can remove it.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
silentstriker said:
We decided to include FC records for subcontinent players pre-WWII just because they did not play many tests. I am iffy on doing this as I think Test criteria is what matters most. If people don't like it, I can remove it.
Fair enough. I assumed Merchant's FC stats were being included solely because they were particularly good.

I'd have no problem with FC stats being included for all players actually, as I do think they are relevance in some way, or at least interesting. As long as its consistent it doesn't really matter, though.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Merchant.

First-class records should only be provided for batsmen who didn't have the opportunity to play too many tests. Otherwise, a good FC record and mediocre test record just means you've been found out at the highest level. That was not the case with Merchant really - he shouldn't go ahead of the likes of Gavaskar who excelled in test cricket, but his first-class stats should carry him pretty far because that's all he had really.
 

Top