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Battle of the Footballers

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Cloete said:
Exactly, and in this case Figo has done alot more to enhance that. Mainly due to the fact that he's a better player.

It's obvious who alot of the regular English contingency are going to vote for though.
Players like Figo are always over-rated because they're stylish, players like Shearer are always under-rated because they're not stylish.

Shearer when he still had his pace was a top notch all round striker, possibly the best in the world at the time, he was deadly from inside the box with headers or on the ground, on the edge of the box where he could nick a yard a smash the ball in the bottom corner (he did this over and over for Blackburn when they won the league). He was a complete striker.
 

Cloete

International Captain
Scaly piscine said:
Players like Figo are always over-rated because they're stylish, players like Shearer are always under-rated because they're not stylish.

Shearer when he still had his pace was a top notch all round striker, possibly the best in the world at the time, he was deadly from inside the box with headers or on the ground, on the edge of the box where he could nick a yard a smash the ball in the bottom corner (he did this over and over for Blackburn when they won the league). He was a complete striker.
Come on though, what was the Premier League standard like in Shearer's prime?

Figo in his prime, while stylish, could cross perfectly with both feet, score great goals, beat the first man almost every time, hit great free kicks and had/has an all-round solid passing game.

I just don't see how people call Figo overrated, he's underrated far more often, and he's a far better player than David Beckham ever was.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Cloete said:
Come on though, what was the Premier League standard like in Shearer's prime?

Figo in his prime, while stylish, could cross perfectly with both feet, score great goals, beat the first man almost every time, hit great free kicks and had/has an all-round solid passing game.

I just don't see how people call Figo overrated, he's underrated far more often, and he's a far better player than David Beckham ever was.
Can't remember off the top of my head, I'd have thought Arsenal (pre-Wenger years, so I can call them by their proper name) had won the Cup Winners Cup? at around that time tho (Alan Smith with a left foot volley, 1-0 - might have been against Inter), so the league couldn't have been that bad. I'm sure someone else will look it up and say otherwise.
 

Cloete

International Captain
Scaly piscine said:
Can't remember off the top of my head, I'd have thought Arsenal (pre-Wenger years, so I can call them by their proper name) had won the Cup Winners Cup? at around that time tho (Alan Smith with a left foot volley, 1-0 - might have been against Inter), so the league couldn't have been that bad. I'm sure someone else will look it up and say otherwise.
Well if we think about it, the EPL started in 92 and that wasn't really too official. In 1994 it became an official FA recognised competition and Blackburn won it in that year, when it was only its first season or 3rd season (whichever way you want to look at it).

Admitedly Arsenal did win the CWC in 1994 and finished 2nd in 1995, but Arsenal were clearly the stand-out team. The rest of the team's had very few foreign players and the general standard wasn't that great. Someone like Cantona, while undoubtedly a good player, certainly isn't an all-time great and I think his record for France shows that, yet he was scoring for fun at the time. He was left out of Euro '96 afterall and France didn't go to the US.
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
Shearer... can only really remember Figo having one good year at Barca, so I'll go for the proven goalscorer
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
Shearer clinches it, 6-4.

Round 1 Matchup 8

Thierry Henry (France)


Bobby Moore (England)



Already through so far:
George Weah
Ruud Krol
Marco van Basten
Pele
Franz Beckenbauer
Garrincha
Alan Shearer
 

Cloete

International Captain
Barney Rubble said:
Shearer clinches it, 6-4.
Democracy sucks...:dry:

Guess I'll go for Thierry in this one just to spite you English (not that it's gonna make any difference) :ph34r:
 

steds

Hall of Fame Member
Big Bob



...still angry at Archie Gemmill not being in, mind...
 
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BoyBrumby

Englishman
Think I'll have to go for Moore. Just seemed to radiate an aura of calm when he played. His obvious weakness was his lack of pace, but from the clips I've seen of him I can't ever recall him being exposed.

Henry is obviously lavishly gifted & now Arsenal's leading ever goalscorer, but has rarely turned it on for France in the same fashion. Although in the squad in 98 & 2000, he was no more than a useful peripheral presence.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Cloete said:
Well if we think about it, the EPL started in 92 and that wasn't really too official. In 1994 it became an official FA recognised competition
Erm, didn't the FA launch the PL?


Cloete said:
Someone like Cantona, while undoubtedly a good player, certainly isn't an all-time great and I think his record for France shows that, yet he was scoring for fun at the time. He was left out of Euro '96 afterall and France didn't go to the US.
Cantona was never someone who "scored for fun" - and his omission from the French side wasn't based on football ability.
 

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