Australian Domestic Season 2022-23

[Burgey]

Hardie gets it done for WA. Good cricketer.

 

[morgieb]

It's crazy that the same state produced two gun pace-bowling all-rounders born in 1999.

Gonna be tough for Hardie to get games - though if Green becomes one of our best three quicks maybe that's the path.

 

[Nintendo]

If head continues to **** up and we can't find a #5 maybe we play Hardie+green in India to allow 3 spinners?

1.Warner
2.Usman
3.marnus
4.smudgr
5.green
6.hardie
7.kez

W/3 spinners and Cummins could work.

 

[Socerer 01]

If head continues to **** up and we can't find a #5 maybe we play Hardie+green in India to allow 3 spinners?

1.Warner
2.Usman
3.marnus
4.smudgr
5.green
6.hardie
7.kez

W/3 spinners and Cummins could work.

is it worth it if the third spinner is going to be a maxi or swepson? assuming agar is the second spinner in discussion here

 

[Nintendo]

is it worth it if the third spinner is going to be a maxi or swepson? assuming agar is the second spinner in discussion here

Swepson is fine even as a 2nd spinner tbh, some posters on here just don't seem to rate him very highly.

 

[Socerer 01]

I'm not sure if you need three front line spinners in India tbh in most conditions. They aren't SL or Mirpur worthy pitches and most of the curators have realised that preparing dustbowls only serves to bring opposition spinners more into play and highlight how lolworthy some of the Indian batsmen are. Unless the pitch is like Ahmedabad recently

 

[TheJediBrah]

If head continues to **** up and we can't find a #5 maybe we play Hardie+green in India to allow 3 spinners?

1.Warner
2.Usman
3.marnus
4.smudgr
5.green
6.hardie
7.kez

W/3 spinners and Cummins could work.

Nah that just unnecessarily weakens the batting. 3 spinners is definitely not necessary and Aus are not going to leave out 2 of CumHazeStarc.

Also 2nd spinner should definitely be Agar. Swepson isn't close to good enough and the difference between him and Agar at this level, against India in India especially, is huge.

However the listed team is definitely stronger than having Head in there tbh.

 

[Nintendo]

Nah that just unnecessarily weakens the batting. 3 spinners is definitely not necessary and Aus are not going to leave out 2 of CumHazeStarc.

Also 2nd spinner should definitely be Agar. Swepson isn't close to good enough and the difference between him and Agar at this level, against India in India especially, is huge.

However the listed team is definitely stronger than having Head in there tbh.

Would you back head for the home summer or nah? Lad has a fantastic home record, but he's dogdicks away from home and looks in absolutely horrid touch in the shield atm. SA and WI both have incredibly strong attacks and a decent bit of diversity/depth in there options, I don't see head lasting long against them unless we give him a junction oval pitch.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Would you back head for the home summer or nah? Lad has a fantastic home record, but he's dogdicks away from home and looks in absolutely horrid touch in the shield atm. SA and WI both have incredibly strong attacks and a decent bit of diversity/depth in there options, I don't see head lasting long against them unless we give him a junction oval pitch.

You have to pick Head for home games. He played a couple of the best knocks in recent Ashes cricket last year. You'd have to have rocks in your head to pick him for a tour of India though.

I haven't seen much of him in this year but if he truly is in the kind of poor form you are suggesting I guess it is worth considering. The main thing saving him is I don't see any obvious replacements. I would back Handscomb against the pace attack of South Africa much less then I would Head

 

[Nintendo]

You have to pick Head for home games. He played a couple of the best knocks in recent Ashes cricket last year. You'd have to have rocks in your head to pick him for a tour of India though.

I haven't seen much of him in this year but if he truly is in the kind of poor form you are suggesting I guess it is worth considering. The main thing saving him is I don't see any obvious replacements. I would back Handscomb against the pace attack of South Africa much less then I would Head

He's got 95 runs @19 on some fairly decent batting decks where all the other redbacks batsmen have managed to semi consistently find scores and keeps getting out nicking off trying to drive/cut wides ones that he should be leaving. Just don't see him making runs if he tries batting like this vs Joseph-Roach-Holder-seales or jansen-nortje-rabada-ngidi if he's not at peak form.

Edit: Just to elaborate on form, every redbacks batter this season has outperformed him bar jake carder and mcandrew. Wes agar and manenti are out-batting him, and doggett may aswell (only 1 innings so far).

 

[TheJediBrah]

Will have to see what GAS thinks. Unfair to compare Head to the batting master that is Ben Manenti though. Some things are just not achievable.

 

[Nintendo]

Can we get some of the current WA coaching staff in with the national setup. What they've helped do in the development of Morris, Hardie and to some extent green over the past 2 years is impressive.

Edit: include jhye, and Whiteman, and cawthright.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Will have to see what GAS thinks. Unfair to compare Head to the batting master that is Ben Manenti though. Some things are just not achievable.

I mean it isn't great that Head has only really one score so far, but the assertion that the rest of the SACA batting lineup has been clearly better is just not accurate at all. Of the recognised specialist bats (so not counting Manenti here, as brilliant as he has been) only Weatherald and Carey, have reached 50 more than once, and even then it is only two each from five innings. The inability to string scores together on a consistent basis has been a problem for South Australia for far longer than anyone on this current list has been around for. Would %100 percent be picking him for the West Indies tests, but it would be nice to see some more runs before that, as much for his own confidence as anything else


As for Handscomb, honestly feel like Roach would eat him alive. No thanks

 

[Burgey]

Little bit odd NSW gave the new ball to Dwarshius over Tremain or Hatcher. Must be backing the left arm variation.

 

[Nintendo]

Little bit odd NSW gave the new ball to Dwarshius over Tremain or Hatcher. Must be backing the left arm variation.

They've given the new rock to dwarshius in almost every game he's played this season haven't they? Feels wierder that they would give it to abbott over tremain.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Dwarshuis is seen as a bit of a swing bowler more so than the others. He opened on his debut at Perth over Hatcher (and bowled way better than Hatcher too).

Abbott is their prime seam bowler though, definitely needs the new rock

 

[morgieb]

Dwarshuis getting FC games still feels weird to me. It’s not like he’s that young anymore…

 

[GoodAreasShane]

They've given the new rock to dwarshius in almost every game he's played this season haven't they? Feels wierder that they would give it to abbott over tremain.

Dwarshuis took the new ball in the first game when Abbott didn't play, was Abbott and Tremain opening up in the second one. Not entirely sure why they went a different way, Tremain did look a little bit off in the first innings, but if I was NSW captain I would have probably backed the more proven Shield performer myself

Hatcher however was never likely to be taking the new ball. He very much seems to have been given the enforcer type role in this attack

 

[Burgey]

Henry Hunt not having the start to the year he (and most of us) would have hoped for. Could have made a case for a squad call up had he started with a few more scores.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Oh, Gannon's back. Ugh