Ashwin's streak and position

[viriya]

But the bowling attacks have a lot of absolute filth in the IPL.

Some IPL teams have attacks better than international sides imo.. but in general yes. Problem with evaluating players just with T20Is is the small sample size.

 

[OverratedSanity]

I actually think he's one of the more underrated ones. His ODI + T20 exploits make people ignore how good he is in Tests - not as good as he is in the shorter forms but in those he is already in the top 3 all-time..

Nah you've got it backwards. His godlike ability in ODIs makes people overrate him massively in tests. Virtually no one can do what he does in ODIs, but he's not even the best test batsman in his team. Lot like kohli in that regard.

 

[OverratedSanity]

imo a little too high.. AB and Voges should be above him.

Nah it's fair, AB had a really shite England series. Rahane has literally not had a single below par series since his debut.

 

[Burgey]

ABdV is the most over-rated Test batsman.

Note the correct initials being used here.

 

[Burgey]

Nah it's fair, AB had a really shite England series. Rahane has literally not had a single below par series since his debut.

Compared with this

 

[Burgey]

So good cos Rahane is 6 in the world too. Burgey wahhhhing so hard

^

 

[viriya]

Nah you've got it backwards. His godlike ability in ODIs makes people overrate him massively in tests. Virtually no one can do what he does in ODIs, but he's not even the best test batsman in his team. Lot like kohli in that regard.

Yea he is.

 

[Black_Warrior]

This is a point that a lot of people overlook when judging Monty and Swann's performance in India in 2012. They bowled well but it has to be said they faced the weakest
Indian batting lineup in a generation - No Dravid, Laxman or Ganguly. Sehwag, Gambhir and Tendulkar clearly on the wane.

Monty never actually did well when he faced India prior to this series and all of a sudden he became a world beater.
It's also one of the reasons why I don't think Swann is the far superior bowler to Harbhajan that quite a few of the ENglish cupcakes on this forum think he his - Harbhajan produced some very strong performance against some excellent batting lineups. Swann tended to cash in against the weaker batting lineups.

Pretty sure in another thread at another time at some other galaxy, you would be arguing how Harbhajan is nowhere near as great as the Indian cupcakes on this forum think he is

 

[Black_Warrior]

Swann bowled well in India despite not growing up on those tracks. Against some good batsmen too. Mainly because he wasn't a spud.

I'm not saying those bowlers should average 14 like Ashwon. I'm just saying itd be good if they don't average 50 on pitches that apparently are spin friendly. Until they do I'm not buying that Ashwon isn't a gas illion miles better than Lyon, Craig, Moeen, Tahir, and all the other spuds that come to India and get tonked while Ashwon gets 13 fers

3rd Test: India v South Africa at Nagpur, Nov 25-27, 2015 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[Furball]

Note the correct initials being used here.

Note how I

Compared with this

managed to multi-quote

 

[weldone]

imo a little too high.. AB and Voges should be above him.

Rahane is too low in that list. He should be in the top 2.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Rahane is too low in that list. He should be in the top 2.

In test batsmen rankings?

 

[harsh.ag]

In test batsmen rankings?

Sneaks-Up-On-You-Out-Of-Nowhere rankings

 

[Furball]

Over-rated ranking.

ABdV being at number 1.

 

[weldone]

In test batsmen rankings?

test match potential rankings

 

[Black_Warrior]

I'm starting to like Ashwin now. From his twitter account, he comes across as very unlike the team of brats and bullies he is a part of.

R Ashwin bats for Yasir Shah's 100 | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[OverratedSanity]

I'm starting to like Ashwin now. From his twitter account, he comes across as very unlike the team of brats and bullies he is a part of.

R Ashwin bats for Yasir Shah's 100 | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

B-b-but it's only one or two blokes now ffs.

Pretty much the whole team is likeable and cute except for Kohli and Jadeja.

 

[Burgey]

Pffft. Dhawan is still in the mix ffs.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Well, yeah

 

[OverratedSanity]

He's no longer the first choice opener though