Archived [18/10/06] : Battrick

[Adamc]

Very nice training update, six pops. Cuss popped to remarkable batting and popped in concentration as well, Badley up to strong bowling, Wynand popped in both secondaries and Malik up to respectable consistency. Probably won't get any primary pops for a while but both Malik and Wynand are getting two nets in their primary so shouldn't be too long, and I'll get some stamina pops over the next couple of weeks as well. I'll keep giving Cuss and Badley one net each in their primary, with any luck Badley will pop again before the end of the season and Cuss a couple of weeks later.

 

[trevor_vayro]

Hi,
Well the main bright spot in an otherwise pants few days was The Cymru Gurgitaters CG selling out its 10500 capacity for the second time in three days - Though that's kind'a where the good news ends! Lost my cup match as expected, but was on TIE against a Div III side, and I did rest six of my first XI, so not overly disappointed. Flying Ferrets got 311/5, which is about par I suppose, though at one stage I did harbour ambitions of keeping them down to 260/270, but they got away from me quite a bit in the last fifteen overs. The one high point of the bowling was Byron, my forgotten spinner, turning in a creditable performance of 10/1/39/2 - And also a satisfactory debut for my YP, Lloyd Chavhanga, 10/0/43/0. But the batting was diabolical - However, having said that, at eight down for sixty, I guess I've got to be grateful to have made 96! No.9, Bewers, (Woe Bat) top scored with 23, besides that only Oli with 10 and Partridge 16 made it into double figures.

Cymru Gurgitaters
The Flying Ferrets
Top Order:
mediocre
respectable
Middle Order:
feeble
respectable
Lower Order:
woeful
feeble
Seam Bowling:
feeble
proficient
Spin Bowling:
feeble
respectable
Fielding:
feeble
mediocre
*
Looking at those ratings, there's were a good bit down on their last couple of games, so I think they must have TIEd as well. Perhaps if I'd have picked my best side and GFId then I might have had a sliver of an outside of a chance - Though probably not, and at least the fitness boost sets me up nicely to GFI in this week's league match, against the side who I guess are my main rivals for a top four finish this season. Actually, what do you guys reckon? Given that my ratings on normal are about Comp/Med/Abs - Med/Use/Feeb, do you reckon I have a chance against this side if I GFI? Here's their ratings for the last two league matches, they won in week1, and lost last week.

West Reading
Top Order:
Wk1: respectable
Wk2: respectable
Middle Order:
Wk1: feeble
Wk2: mediocre
Lower Order:
Wk1: abysmal
Wk2: abysmal
Seam Bowling:
Wk1: competent
Wk2: competent
Spin Bowling:
Wk1: useless
Wk2: useless
Fielding:
Wk1: mediocre
Wk2: competent

Also, they play on a hard and fast pitch. At the moment I play Mullins, (Feeb Stam - Comp/abs bat, Feeb/Resp bowl), as my No.7/B5 all-rounder. Given that their pitch doesn't seem to yield many wickets, am I better off sacrificing Mullins, and playing the rejuvenated Byron? (ABS Stam - Abs/Med bat, Med/Med Spinner)?

I guess the question I'm asking is two-fold:
A. If I drop Mullins am I leaving myself dangerously thin in batting, even for a hard and fast pitch? It would mean that I'll have 1 Prof, 2 Resps and 3 Comps, but nothing better than Woe Bat from No.7 onwards.
B. Is there much benefit to having a Med/Med bowler over a Feeb/Resp? Mullins must by now be a V. High Feeb, but Byron, with wages of £392, must be a V. high Med. On the other hand however, Mullins is Feeb Stam, whereas Byron is Abs.

The choice is yours!

Backed the wrong horse with my YP. Gambled on a 19 YO, thinking that they might start with better natural talent, and used 12 ITS on bowling, 9 on Stam and 9 on Cons. I ended up with:

Lloyd Chavhanga -
19 yo, BT Rating=5,575

RH Batsman, RM Bowler,
competent
batting form,
competent
bowling form,
moderate

A
cautious
player with
proficient
leadership skills and
worthless
experience.

Table with 4 columns and 4 rows
Stamina:
feeble
Wicket Keeping:
worthless
Batting:
feeble
Concentration:
abysmal
Bowling:
mediocre
Consistency:
feeble
Fielding:
Respectable

If I'd have loaded up his batting instead of bowling I could have had a Resp/Prof batsman, but hey, **** happens! I'll keep him around as bowling cover for the time being, until something better comes along.

Later, Trev

 

[PY]

He isn't that bad mate! If you have space for a fielding net and possibly a primary net (probably bowling due to feeble consis though both would be good )then you could have him into a decent all-rounder in a few weeks.

Their bowling doesn't look too hot to me, comp/useless isn't great but their batting looks pretty dynamite-esque for III. I'd GFI as you have an outside chance he goes for TIE/normal which he probably will. What are your games after this one? Are they easy TIE games?

 

[PY]

Gah, didn't notice he was a 19yo. Might only be worth it if you have spare nets going around (does anyone actually have any spare nets, ever? 'Cos I certainly don't!)

 

[trevor_vayro]

He isn't that bad mate! If you have space for a fielding net and possibly a primary net (probably bowling due to feeble consis though both would be good )then you could have him into a decent all-rounder in a few weeks.

Their bowling doesn't look too hot to me, comp/useless isn't great but their batting looks pretty dynamite-esque for III. I'd GFI as you have an outside chance he goes for TIE/normal which he probably will. What are your games after this one? Are they easy TIE games?

Oops, Firstly humble apologies to Big Brother watching over the site, I wrote a naughty word in my last post, and I notice that it's rapidly been expunged! Don't send me to Room 101, I won't do it again!

I'm going to GFI this game, as this is the sort of match I can realistically stand a chance of winning at this level. My next three games are against the bottom team in the division, who I should be able to see off on normal, then the two top sides in the league. I'm probably going to TIE those games as I don't stand a chance, though I don't want to get an utter pasting and *** up my RR, so we'll wait and see.

Any thoughts on the Mullins/Byron debate?

No, I'm not complaining about the YP at all, it's just sod's law that I gambled the wrong way with the ITS. TBH, my nets are full with better players than him, so I'll keep him as cover for a bit, then flog him for whatever I can get when I no longer have a use for him.

Tar, Trev

 

[cricketboy29]

The thing doesnt even accept my squad , i pressed accept and nothing happened

 

[Scaly piscine]

The thing doesnt even accept my squad , i pressed accept and nothing happened

I heard that it sometimes unzips the tool and creates the data folder in the wrong place (something like that anyway). If you create a ......../bat1.3.1/data folder that might correct it (ie wherever you unzipped the directory with 'bat' (which you run the program with) in it there should also be folders called data and lib.

I could have misremembered it tho.

 

[PY]

Oops, Firstly humble apologies to Big Brother watching over the site, I wrote a naughty word in my last post, and I notice that it's rapidly been expunged! Don't send me to Room 101, I won't do it again!

Haha, it's done as soon as you post so in fact, it never existed in theory (get your head round that ).

I'm going to GFI this game, as this is the sort of match I can realistically stand a chance of winning at this level. My next three games are against the bottom team in the division, who I should be able to see off on normal, then the two top sides in the league. I'm probably going to TIE those games as I don't stand a chance, though I don't want to get an utter pasting and *** up my RR, so we'll wait and see.

Do you need to go normal against the bottom side? I didn't think your side was anywhere near bad enough to be near relegation.

If you can go TIE on all three then fitness should be much improved which'd be good 'cos morale may take a pounding from those other two if your feelings are accurate.

Any thoughts on the Mullins/Byron debate?

I'd go Byron possibly due to the fact that their bowling doesn't appear to be steamin' hot so you may not need more than 6 decent batters? I'm tempted to say just play Mullins and then put all your batsmen on V. Attacking and try and flog them out of the park but that's pretty risky/stupid tactics.

With the YP, it's worth looking at his leadership if there's no-one in your side with better because if you scan back through last 100-odd posts for posts by Samuel_Vimes (Hakon), the leadership seems to make a large difference with his ratings so at the moment I have a superb leader at 7 who's a mediocre batsman but I rarely get down there so I play him as a 'Mike Brearley' for my side. Maybe fit him in somewhere as the fifth bowler and captain?

 

[ash chaulk]

aussie managers have you seen the new data base site has traing times etc.. too http://www.battrickaustralia.com/index.html it looks awesome

 

[Scaly piscine]

aussie managers have you seen the new data base site has traing times etc.. too http://www.battrickaustralia.com/index.html it looks awesome

Trouble is a lot of those training times are wrong. The ones on jumpers for wickets are far more reliable.

 

[cricketboy29]

I heard that it sometimes unzips the tool and creates the data folder in the wrong place (something like that anyway). If you create a ......../bat1.3.1/data folder that might correct it (ie wherever you unzipped the directory with 'bat' (which you run the program with) in it there should also be folders called data and lib.

I could have misremembered it tho.

Nope, still doesnt work, thanks anyway though scaly

 

[Scaly piscine]

I've decided to hold out another week and a bit and pull a max ITS 20 yo, I figure I'll have too many trainees if I pull a (decent) 17yo. From looking at the data collected on jumpers for wickets it looks like putting 12 ITS into something gives at least a mediocre, with more often than not higher (although people probably don't bother mentioning their mediocre YPs as much as they would if they had pulled a star, so the system might not be so generous).

By the way I'm also free for friendlies this week.

 

[andyc]

I've decided to hold out another week and a bit and pull a max ITS 20 yo, I figure I'll have too many trainees if I pull a (decent) 17yo. From looking at the data collected on jumpers for wickets it looks like putting 12 ITS into something gives at least a mediocre, with more often than not higher (although people probably don't bother mentioning their mediocre YPs as much as they would if they had pulled a star, so the system might not be so generous).

By the way I'm also free for friendlies this week.

Yeah from everything I've seen, 12 ITS gives a minimum of mediocre for a primary.

 

[trevor_vayro]

OFFICIAL! - There is a Battrick God, And he supports the Cymru Gurgitaters! Picture the morning I was having, My Mrs isn't talking to me, my dog's got the *****, my head feels like a turkey's **** on Christmas morning, owing to rather too much cheap red plonk last night, work's busier than a Taiwanese sweat-shop sewing Manchester United shirts, and I'm plummeting towards the depths of my overdraft with 13 days still to go until payday! But then, out of adversity…. I log on to Battrick only to find that the manager of one of the two mint sides in my league has been relieved of his stewardship, and replaced by a new manager, with a starting squad, and no realistic prospect of winning another game in this division this season.

I play them in a fortnight, and should be able to TIE it safely, mind you, I'd intended to TIE it in any case in the full expectation of taking a pasting whatever I did. But it gets even better than that! The two games they'd comfortably won before getting sacked were against my two main rivals for a top four finish! So I've effectively been handed a four point bonus for doing absolutely nothing.

Mind you, tricky couple of weeks coming up before that, as I play both of my two mid-table rivals. The side I play in a week are currently bottom, but looking at their ratings, they're better than that, and were just unlucky to get the two best sides in our league first up. Tomorrow's opponents, West Reading, have won one lost one like me, and their ratings are pretty similar, except they have Resp top order to my Comp. I'm GFIing to hopefully nail down what could transpire to have been an eight pointer come the end of the season.

I've also concluded the Mullin/Byron debate, by picking neither of them. On a hard and fast pitch, on GFI, I figured that I oughtn't really to need Mullin's Comp batting at No.7, and his Feeb bowling could end up being a bit of a liability under those conditions. That left Byron, (Abs Stam, Abs/Med bat, Med/Med Spinner), or last week's YP, Chavhanga, (Feeb Stam, Feeb/Abs Bat, Med/Feeb RM) Byron has Strong/Woe leadership which counted in his favour and is a marginally better bowler, but in the end Chavhanga's superior batting and Stam, as well as the fact that he's a Resp fielder made it a pretty easy decision.

BTW Scaly, I put 12 ITS on Chavhanga's bowling, and 9 each on his Stam and Cons. Given that 9 ITS gave him Feeb Stam and Cons, I reckon 12 ITS must make him a reasonably high Med bowler. This would seem to be born out in his wages of £425 - Even allowing for say fifty quid for his Feeb batting, £375 would I reckon have him pretty close to Comp bowling?

Later, Praise the Battrick Lord! Trev

 

[PY]

"i am scouting for the indian U-19 team... and u seem to have some young talent in your team.... it wld be gr8 if u cld mssg me the skills of the following players and if they recv any nets... Sandeep Chanderpaul

Thnx
PARTAX

Got this via the mailing service, Chanderpaul is my gun batman but he's nowhere near India U19 standards I don't reckon. The user isn't the registered manager for India U19 but he isn't in my league nor do I have any upcoming fixtures against his team....but he is still in the cup.

Thoughts?

 

[Adamc]

I don't think it's anything surreptitious if that's what you mean, I've seen that guy on the BT sledging forums a bit, and in any case he wouldn't gain anything from knowing your player's details. Looking at the Indian U19 squad I'd say Chanderpaul's a fair way behind the current U19 players, but since the NT/U19 squads have just been expanded they're probably just looking for a few more players to fill the squad before the world cup, so you never know. The Indian national team is actually weaker than the U19 team, so he could be a shot at that as well.

Two more nations to join BT next season, USA almost certain to be one of them (sigh), while the other will probably be one of Holland/Norway/Sweden, maybe Canada.

 

[PY]

Should I lie to make sure I get to keep him?

Some of the India NT/U19 squad members have like BT ratings of 50,000+ and Chanderpaul only has 11,000ish! I didn't think he'd be anywhere near for a season yet!

 

[Adamc]

Well I don't think he's in any grave danger of being selected, but if you really want to make sure he doesn't get picked then that would be the easiest way to go about it.

BT ratings are pretty useless though, generally all a high BT rating means is that the player has high secondaries. There are heaps and heaps of players with mediocre/competent primary who manage to get 30-40k BT ratings. The highest rated player in the world is a respectable bowler with elite concentration, who averages 20-odd with the ball at club level (and 40-odd in friendlies) and not surprisingly isn't in a NT/U19 squad. Probably one of the best fielders in the world though.

 

[brenoevo]

Do use think this guy was worth the £60,956 i just bought him for?

David Vincent (74088)
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, respectable batting form, superb bowling form, changeable
A destructive player with mediocre leadership skills and worthless experience.

Plays For: Brighton CC
Nationality: Australia
Age: 21 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 6,843
Wages: £892 p/w

Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: competent
Batting: competent Concentration: mediocre
Bowling: feeble Consistency: feeble
Fielding: feeble

Judging by his wages he should be high competent in both batting and keeping?

 

[33/3from3.3]

Probably