"Anyone but Little England"

[Langeveldt]

Not true!!! True, they do happen to be quite ugly. But it offers a hell of a lot more than the South of England, which only presents us with stuck up ****s with stupid accents.

Yeah well, doesn't stop you guys coming down here in your millions to spend money every sunny summer weekend..

 

[C_C]

Not that it is, but its seen as some kind of ideal to move towards, often coming from an intellectual or wealthy elite, who have the ability and wealth to appreciate such a world.

I would hardly call the hoardes of backpackers and budget travellers like myself 'elite'.
Multiculturalism is awesome because multiculturalism is almost always accompanied by tolerance and fun. If you are not afraid of different viewpoints and mannerisms, its a very entertaining experience.

 

[parttimer]

I've never heard such a load of crap in all my life..

 

[luckyeddie]

Yeah well, doesn't stop you guys coming down here in your millions to spend money every sunny summer weekend..

Since when has Blackpool been in the south?

 

[C_C]

I've never heard such a load of crap in all my life..

I dont think you've seen much of the world in your life either.

 

[C_C]

Why is it so important for all cultures to be present in one location? Not that it is, but its seen as some kind of ideal to move towards, often coming from an intellectual or wealthy elite, who have the ability and wealth to appreciate such a world.
Average people are more insecure, depending on solidarity and feeling safe with specific traditions etc.

Average western people maybe.
The best thing about having access to multiculturalism is that you get a very vibrant and thriving cultural scenery with fresh ideas and viewpoints popping in like confetti.
It is a very pleasurable experience so long as yer not xenophobic.
Some parts of europe and north america tend to get xenophobic from time to time....but when you have a billion or so people most of whom are different culturally from each other, its pretty hard to be xenophobic.

 

[parttimer]

I am not seeing it thru rosetinted glasses, as you are, thats the difference, that and you would love to see western culture consigned to the dustbin. That is your real agenda. I have no desire to debate this with you any longer.

 

[Autobahn]

Average western people maybe.
The best thing about having access to multiculturalism is that you get a very vibrant and thriving cultural scenery with fresh ideas and viewpoints popping in like confetti.

Average western people? What the hell kinda term is that?

 

[C_C]

I am not seeing it thru rosetinted glasses, as you are, thats the difference, that and you would love to see western culture consigned to the dustbin. That is your real agenda. I have no desire to debate this with you any longer.

Rose tinted glasses ?
I think my glasses are a lot clearer than your's - i've seen many cultures and experienced it with my own eyes.
As per consigning the western culture to a dustbin....no...it would actually stimulate western culture if it had some diversity.... i just dont think the same blaze monotone from one end of the nation to another being very enjoyable at all.
And your xenophobic response is not surprising at all. Such attitudes is why the western culture is pretty drab and monotonous, lacking variety.

 

[C_C]

Average western people? What the hell kinda term is that?

As in the average western people.......
there are many attitudes you find in the west that you dont find anywhere else and vice versa.
We are talking cultural aspects here.
It is very much a western trait (from my travel experiences) to 'feel good when everyone is the same as you and feel insecure when people hold very different viewpoints'.

 

[Autobahn]

As in the average western people.......
there are many attitudes you find in the west that you dont find anywhere else and vice versa.
We are talking cultural aspects here.
It is very much a western trait (from my travel experiences) to 'feel good when everyone is the same as you and feel insecure when people hold very different viewpoints'.

How is that a western belief?

Plus western culture does have diversity are you saying that a remote scottish villiage has the same culture of say soho in London? Or that people in Montana live excatly the same as people in new york?

 

[C_C]

How is that a western belief?

Plus western culture does have diversity are you saying that a remote scottish villiage has the same culture of say soho in London? Or that people in Montana live excatly the same as people in new york?

Urban vs Rural is not a cultural difference.
Its difference in toys and stuff.
Culture is music, food,clothing,art, architecture, linguistics, literature,etc.

And i said that it is a western beleif because i've hardly noticed it anywhere else in any significant quantity(apart from the middle east). Believe it or not, the middle eastern perspective is a lot similar to the western perspective than both realise...its rather ironic that they dotn get along culturally at all while the west and east asia does get along decently, despite being diametrically opposite cultures.

 

[Autobahn]

Lots of cities in the uk have different architecture as i'm sure they do in other western countries.

But if you want to fool yourself into thinking your a wise super-intelligent traveller who knows everything and believes his personal experiences give him the right to criticise certain cultures feel free to so.

 

[Swervy]

Lots of cities in the uk have different architecture as i'm sure they do in other western countries.

But if you want to fool yourself into thinking your a wise super-intelligent traveller who knows everything and believes his personal experiences give him the right to criticise certain cultures feel free to so.

to be honest I dont think CC is actually really criticising Western culture as such, I think he is simply stating a fact as he sees it. And I tend to agree with him I think.

Western culture IS pretty similar around the world, but that is simply due to the prevalence and importance of TV etc (and now the internet) and how decent transport systems are...but slowly the world is becoming more 'homogenized'...(right word?) ...and the problem is, as people seek to find places around the world which arent so 'western' the obvious consequence is that these places traditional cultures too will slowly become diluted

 

[C_C]

to be honest I dont think CC is actually really criticising Western culture as such, I think he is simply stating a fact as he sees it. And I tend to agree with him I think.

Western culture IS pretty similar around the world, but that is simply due to the prevalence and importance of TV etc (and now the internet) and how decent transport systems are...but slowly the world is becoming more 'homogenized'...(right word?) ...and the problem is, as people seek to find places around the world which arent so 'western' the obvious consequence is that these places traditional cultures too will slowly become diluted

Well said swervmeister.
I personally dont think that other cultures would get diluted very easily....for example Japan/Korea etc. are pretty developed but very different culturally....I think the same baritone of western culture comes from centuries of 'one kind of philosophy' imposed on the populace. and infact, the western culture is diversifying. Just not very fast or as much as some tend to beleive

 

[parttimer]

to be honest I dont think CC is actually really criticising Western culture as such, I think he is simply stating a fact as he sees it. And I tend to agree with him I think.

Western culture IS pretty similar around the world, but that is simply due to the prevalence and importance of TV etc (and now the internet) and how decent transport systems are...but slowly the world is becoming more 'homogenized'...(right word?) ...and the problem is, as people seek to find places around the world which arent so 'western' the obvious consequence is that these places traditional cultures too will slowly become diluted

You are stupid. It is obvious he is criticising Western culture as being zenophobic and insular.

 

[Autobahn]

You are stupid. It is obvious he is criticising Western culture as being zenophobic and insular.

Well my problem with CC is that he assumes that his personal experiences are in fact correct and 100% of the picture

 

[C_C]

Well my problem with CC is that he assumes that his personal experiences are in fact correct and 100% of the picture

Have you travelled the world ? If not, how on earth would YOU know whats the picture ?
You'd find that most people who've travelled extensively hold similar viewpoints.

 

[C_C]

You are stupid. It is obvious he is criticising Western culture as being zenophobic and insular.

The western culture is a bit xenophobic and insular. There is too many codes and protocols for it to develop diversity. Do you disagree with that ?
Perhaps if you actually stepped outside the west and lived in non-western nations for any length of time, you'd see the pros and cons of each culture.
Its understandable why the west is the way it is, but like i said, if you think western culture isnt insular or is diverse, you are sadly mistaken.

 

[Autobahn]

Have you travelled the world ? If not, how on earth would YOU know whats the picture ?
You'd find that most people who've travelled extensively hold similar viewpoints.

Well in all i've only lived really in nottingham, i mean i was in Hong Kong for a while but i was like 3

You yourself should know that one person's view doesn't always tell the whole picture, people have biases and different interpretations.